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    Good Morning LU,

    Wow sounds like you have been really busy! Good to here that everything is going well!

    YOU: YHVH the Father and YHVH the Son do communicate, before flesh, during flesh, and after resurrection. The Son does everything the Father tells Him to do in every position. Try not to get too hung up on the Father telling the Son things. It…[Read more]

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    Famous flat earther declares the earth is a globe. Live!

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    Hi Mike,

    Hey there Carmel.  I’m going to pick just a few of  Jesus’ titles out of your long list to discuss…

    Bread of God – John 6:33; 50

    Christ of God – Luke 9:20

    Holy One of God – Mark 1:24

    Image of God – 2 Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:15

    Lamb of God – John 1:29

    Son of God – Luke 1:35

    Wisdom of God – 1 Corinthians 1:24[Read more]

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    LU  no matter how you dress this ip  you believe in two Gods who are united in purpose.

    I believe in one God the Father and his Son whom God made Lord.

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    Admin replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 4 years, 1 month ago

    God is Spirit  do perhaps as The Word who was with God, he may have been a Spirit too. And becsuse all creation came from God through The Word, then maybe he took a body thereafter. I’m speculating.

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    Jodi, have I answered your questions? It has been a while and I don’t believe that you have specifically addressed me with a follow-up question. If I’m wrong please re-post.

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    Hello Proclaimer,

    Second time posted:

    You said: The Son was begotten by God directly.

    What type of being is the Father and the Son according to your understanding? Are they the same type of being or different? Please explain your answer.

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    Mike,

    You asked:

    So then every single reference to the Most High in the entire Bible using either “God” or “Yahweh” could be referring to the Father alone, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the Son?  And then that would be why they always refer to “God” and “Yahweh” as a He?

    Yes, it “could be” referring to the Father, however in all o…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    You asked:

    Kathi, can you provide a single verse that refers to the Most High using either “God” or “Yahweh” where it MUST BE either referring to the Son or to the Unity of both of them?  (In other words, it is explicitly spelled out for us.)

    Heb 1:8 But about the Son He says:

    “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever,

    and justice is…[Read more]

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    In short, a donut actually fits the observational data much better than a ball does.  Well done, Proclaimer.  I’ll give Donut Earth a closer look.

    Bahahahaha!

    Make sure to accompany it with a coffee cup shaped moon.

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      It’s actually just moving away from us until the point that our perspective says it’s almost on the ground (like distant clouds are “lower to the ground” than the ones closer to you).  At that point, it disappears into the cloud deck.

    Until you zoom it back into view.

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    And then you have the gall to say these words to ME?

    Phew!

    You can’t blame me though. I’ve heard it all here including the possibility of shapeshifters who blink like reptiles.

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    Mike,

    Regarding this post:

    Here are some names Yahweh was called in the OT…

    Would you consider any of those a matter of Yahweh changing His name to a different name?

    You copy a list of names (plural) and then not see that each of those names are different and new to the others?

    YHVH our Righteousness became a new name for the Son. He was not Y…[Read more]

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    LU:  Sometimes the word “God” is directed to one person (the Father whose name is YHVH)…

    So then every single reference to the Most High using either “God” or “Yahweh” could be referring to the Father alone, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the Son?  And then that would be why they always refer to “God” and “Yahweh” as a He?

    Kathi, can y…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    Regarding this post:

    LU:  Mike,

    You said:

    In the Bible, Jesus is called…

    1.  Son of God.

    2.  Only begotten son of God.

    3.  Servant of God.

    4.  Priest of God.

    5.  Holy one of God.

    6.  Word of God.

    7.  Anointed one of God.

    8.  Messenger of God.

    9.  Sacrificial lamb of God.

    10.  Prophet of God.

    I call Jesus all of those things…

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    Proclaimer: I see what you are trying to say with the sun fade. That the sun can turn off. Let’s run with the sun turning off or fading every single day. If it can just turn off, then wouldn’t the people in that location see the sun turn off while the sun was overhead? Yeah, you need to think such things Mike before embarking on a certain path…

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    Hi Mike,

    Sounds great, start the thread! 🙂

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    Hi Mike,

    Jodi:  17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

    YOU: That seems to say that Jesus would have the spirit and power that Elijah had when he was on earth.

    I don’t see what…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>No excuses Mike</span>

    You mean you DON’T want me to do for even a week what YOU’VE been doing for a year?  Is that what you’re really trying to tell me?  😆

    Save your breath.  I will get to your burning issue in one year from today… IF you have reasonably addressed the many issues that I’ve raised ove…[Read more]

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