Mike: I call Jesus all of those things because the scriptures call Jesus all of those things.

 

LU:  Scripture does call Jesus the Servant to YHVH and that He is…the servant by creating all things and in many other ways. Yet you don’t believe Jesus created one thing.

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I’m still waiting for Proclaimer to answer this question…

Hey Proclaimer, which ONE of the up arrows in the right image point to the throne of God in heaven?

Jodi: Hi Mike,

Sounds great, start the thread! 

I decided to start addressing your preexistent points here, but I’m happy to delve into it in a separate thread if you (or Kathi) prefer.  (Sorry, I’m addressing past posts in chronological order, and just now came to this post of yours.  But it’s not hard to copy and paste my previous post to a new…[Read more]

Jodi: Jesus is the prophet like that of Moses.

Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

Acts 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your G…

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Mike: Why did you start in verse 20, and also disregard what I just showed you from verses 18 and 19?

Jodi:  I did not disregard this, I explain my position to this scripture directly when I said and put in bold, ” We are directly told that the PURPOSE of the virgin birth was for a SIGN and being that it was a virgin birth, it would ther…

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Mike:  All that being said, let’s run with your understanding that the Jews accused Jesus of claiming to be the Yahweh who could be seen by men.

Did Jesus affirm their accusation or deny it?

 

LU: Jesus confirmed that He is properly called “God.” If the created beings were called god, how much more the uncreated and only begotten Son of God wou…

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Mike: Do you have any NT scriptural support that the Jews of Jesus’ time on earth were aware of a “Yahweh Unity”, and knew that one of the Yahwehs could be seen by men, while the other could not?

 

LU:  John 14: 7-11

“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”

Since Jesus is the…

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Mike:  Men have, however, seen spirit messengers of Yahweh in the Bible, and often address these messengers of Yahweh as “Yahweh”.

 

LU:  There are messengers that pass on YHVH’s words and there is the image of YHVH, the Son who is speaking…

All of God’s spirit sons are made in His image, hence, “Let US make man in OUR image”.  The bottom l…[Read more]

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A big ball has definitely an up, down and side.
Look at these kids, they know better than most of scientists:

Mike:  Jesus couldn’t possibly be God then, since no man has ever seen God (John 1:18 – written long after John and thousands of men on earth had seen Jesus).  John’s claim also includes Abraham and Jacob – and is supported by Yahweh Himself, …

 

LU:  Evidently, the Father is unseen, His image…the Son, can be seen.

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Jodi: Psalms 2 is a prophecy…

Jesus was anointed of the Spirit and sent out into the world where he would be persecuted unto his death by wicked rulers for the works he did through the Spirit. They had no clue that he would rise from the dead to become a kings of kings and bring forth wrath upon the wicked.

Pslam 2:6 Yet have I set my king u…

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Jodi: Hi Mike,

I do not believe at all that Paul is speaking of two creations in Colossians 1.

The context clearly shows Paul is speaking of one creation, giving further clarity of that creation spoken of in verse 15 in verse 18, where Paul is speaking of he who was raised from the dead receiving his inheritance…

Coll 2:15 Who is the image…

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Gene:  Mike……You do realize,  don’t you?, Holding on to this flat earth thing put you in the catagory of some of this earths most ignorant people that now exists. It causes people to doubt everything you say Mike.

Gene, what does it mean when an idiot calls YOU an idiot?  Something for you to think about.

But right now, we are not discussi…[Read more]

Mike…….Wisdom is an “atribute”, it is not a person.  Anyone can posses wisdom, it is one of the Seven Spirits of God,  scripture tells, that …..the hiden atributes “OF GOD”, are seen by the things he created.    Certanly Jesus had wisdom in him, that he recieved by the Spirit of God that dwelled “IN” HIM,   but to say he “himself”  is wisdom…[Read more]

Mike:  GENE AND PROCLAIMER, KNOWING NOW THAT “CLOUDS” CAN’T POSSIBLY BE THE WATERS ABOVE THE PLACE THAT THE SUN, MOON AND STARS ARE IN – WHAT IS YOUR NEW ANSWER TO WHAT THE WATERS ABOVE THE RAQIA ARE?  THANKS.

 

Proclaimer:  Oh boy. Looks like you need a cartoon. You still don’t get it. Lol. Why don’t you discuss a subject that you can understan…

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Mike……You do realize,  don’t you?, Holding on to this flat earth thing put you in the catagory of some of this earths most ignorant people that now exists. It causes people to doubt everything you say Mike.

Peace and love to you and yours Mike………gene

Carmel……So you are really saying you “really”do not believe what Jesus himself says right? , That is obvious , Jesus said he could no “Nothing” Of himself,  you say he is a liar?  Scripture shows that Jesus started his ministery after he was anointed by John and recieved the “Holy Spirit” from God  and was led out into the wilderness to be tes…[Read more]

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Hi Jodi,

Luke 2:And seeing him, they wondered. And his mother said to him: Son, why hast thou done so to us? behold thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49And he said to them:

How is it that you sought me?

did you not know,
that I must be about my father’s business? 
50And they UNDERSTOOD not the word that he spoke unto t…[Read more]

Hi to all

Daily Devotional

WE MUST IDENTIFY OUR WEAKNESSES

The Lord said, Simon, Simon, Satan has claimed you, to sift you like wheat. But I prayed for you, so that your faith would not fail; and you, when you return, strengthen your brothers. (Luke 22:31-32)

Satan will always interfere between the human soul and God. He will always cause…[Read more]