Hello Proclaimer,

Second time posted:

You said: The Son was begotten by God directly.

What type of being is the Father and the Son according to your understanding? Are they the same type of being or different? Please explain your answer.

Mike,

You asked:

So then every single reference to the Most High in the entire Bible using either “God” or “Yahweh” could be referring to the Father alone, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the Son?  And then that would be why they always refer to “God” and “Yahweh” as a He?

Yes, it “could be” referring to the Father, however in all o…[Read more]

Mike,

You asked:

Kathi, can you provide a single verse that refers to the Most High using either “God” or “Yahweh” where it MUST BE either referring to the Son or to the Unity of both of them?  (In other words, it is explicitly spelled out for us.)

Heb 1:8 But about the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever,

and justice is…[Read more]

In short, a donut actually fits the observational data much better than a ball does.  Well done, Proclaimer.  I’ll give Donut Earth a closer look.

Bahahahaha!

Make sure to accompany it with a coffee cup shaped moon.

  It’s actually just moving away from us until the point that our perspective says it’s almost on the ground (like distant clouds are “lower to the ground” than the ones closer to you).  At that point, it disappears into the cloud deck.

Until you zoom it back into view.

And then you have the gall to say these words to ME?

Phew!

You can’t blame me though. I’ve heard it all here including the possibility of shapeshifters who blink like reptiles.

Mike,

Regarding this post:

Here are some names Yahweh was called in the OT…

Would you consider any of those a matter of Yahweh changing His name to a different name?

You copy a list of names (plural) and then not see that each of those names are different and new to the others?

YHVH our Righteousness became a new name for the Son. He was not Y…[Read more]

LU:  Sometimes the word “God” is directed to one person (the Father whose name is YHVH)…

So then every single reference to the Most High using either “God” or “Yahweh” could be referring to the Father alone, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the Son?  And then that would be why they always refer to “God” and “Yahweh” as a He?

Kathi, can y…[Read more]

Mike,

Regarding this post:

LU:  Mike,

You said:

In the Bible, Jesus is called…

1.  Son of God.

2.  Only begotten son of God.

3.  Servant of God.

4.  Priest of God.

5.  Holy one of God.

6.  Word of God.

7.  Anointed one of God.

8.  Messenger of God.

9.  Sacrificial lamb of God.

10.  Prophet of God.

I call Jesus all of those things…

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Proclaimer: I see what you are trying to say with the sun fade. That the sun can turn off. Let’s run with the sun turning off or fading every single day. If it can just turn off, then wouldn’t the people in that location see the sun turn off while the sun was overhead? Yeah, you need to think such things Mike before embarking on a certain path…

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Hi Mike,

Sounds great, start the thread! 🙂

Hi Mike,

Jodi:  17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

YOU: That seems to say that Jesus would have the spirit and power that Elijah had when he was on earth.

I don’t see what…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>No excuses Mike</span>

You mean you DON’T want me to do for even a week what YOU’VE been doing for a year?  Is that what you’re really trying to tell me?  😆

Save your breath.  I will get to your burning issue in one year from today… IF you have reasonably addressed the many issues that I’ve raised ove…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: Why did you start in verse 20, and also disregard what I just showed you from verses 18 and 19?

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

I did not disregard this, I explain my position to this scripture…[Read more]

Mike,

Regarding this post:

LU:  I think the Jews accused Jesus of claiming to be the Yahweh that had been seen by Abraham and Jacob, for instance.

Mike:

Exodus 33… 19“I will cause all My goodness to pass before you,” Yahweh replied, “and I will proclaim My name—Yahweh—in your presence…” 20But He added, “You cannot see My face, for no man can…

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No excuses Mike

Dude, you asked me to zoom a completely set sun up into the sky a week ago!  And you even said that you know I don’t live near an ocean, right?  Yet only a WEEK later you’re like a dog with a bone that you just can’t let go.  You’ve asked me about it like 20 times in a week!

Look for a plain Mike. I mentioned that too. Even a lar…[Read more]

The sun turns off?
Mike, obviously at that angle there would be some refraction that will cause a number of effects. But at the end of the day, when the earth has gone over the curve, except for that refraction, you will never get the sun back. That said, to eliminate refraction, one only needs to wait a little while before zooming in.

And let’s…[Read more]

Mike,

You asked:

Kathi, you tell us that the word “God” (in reference to the Most High) describes a combo of two persons who make up one God, right?

What then does it mean when Jesus calls the Father “my God”?

Jesus certainly isn’t describing a combo of two persons, right?  So what does the word “God” (in reference to the Most High) mean whe…

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Oh my this has been a busy place today :). I guess I’m gonna have to search for questions for me to answer, I finally have some time this evening to spend here. Anybody want to point me to their toughest?? Thanks LU

Jodi: The angel tells Joseph: 

20 But while he thought on these things…

Why did you start in verse 20, and also disregard what I just showed you from verses 18 and 19?

Jodi:  17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make…

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