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    Mike, I asked you a question in our debate.

    Chop chop.

    It is the last post.

    No excuses because it is easy to find, so not time wasted looking for it.

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    Must answer question

    Did God call the Raqia – Shamayim?

    Which in English is:

    Did God call the expanse – heaven?

    Yes or No.

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    You guys are changing my views on cencorship.

    I am against it because it tried to quiet truth or alterative views.

    The left have weaponized it.

    But you guys have me rethinking my stance.

    You really cannot have people posting the most foolish crap all the time.

    It can bring a platform to ruin.

    Prove me wrong.

    Lol.

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    Mike, can you quote the post number where you have brought back the sun.

    If you haven’t done it yet, then why are you scared to do it?

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    What I’d like to know is why you flat earthers keep going. You get utterly demolished in every single debate, yet you keep coming back. Usually with the same debunked garbage. Lol.

    It’s one thing to be a simpleton, That is not a sin.

    But fools incur judgement.

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    Lol, still missed the point dabbs.

    Back to the drawing board.

    My point debunks Mike.

    If he is right, then it enforces that God is below the waters.

    But you miss that I do not believe Mike is right, thus by extension I am not making that argument, rather Mike is making it without knowing it. If you still can’t get your head around it then just…[Read more]

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    Jodi:  Mike, here is a God given clear fact, before Abraham even existed, long before he ever was, from the beginning the man Jesus of Nazareth was declared to execute God’s purpose…

    Agreed.  Of course you realize that this takes your argument that the origin of the future ruler in Micah 5:2 was Abraham (or God’s prophecy to Abraham) off the tab…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    No Jesus is not declaring at all that he existed before Abraham in John 8, and such a stance is to ignore all that Jesus said leading up to that verse and not apply a very important fact that God made very clear in a passage that He wants us to know and APPLY to all other scripture under the sun. 

    I did speak to this in a recent post…[Read more]

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    Yes Danny, I noticed that right away.  In fact that’s why I brought that very point up as a DIRECT question to him yesterday.  So far, crickets from both him and Gene.  🙄

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    Jodi: Hi Mike,

    You are asking that I don’t apply what I know to a passage, take away/hide the truth and understanding I have and then read a passage as if I am blind, that’s ridiculous, that’s a game I don’t want to play with you Mike.

    What?  When have I asked you to do any of that?  I merely pointed out two contradictory statements you made i…[Read more]

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    @mikeboll64

    Hi Mike,

    You know that Proclaimer bombarded us with Genesis 1:8
    Raqia is called heaven – God dwells in heaven.

    Well, then I quoted* this to him:
    In Gen. 1:8 God calls the firmament “heaven” (Hebrew shamayim). That turns out to give little additional definition to what the firmament (raqia) is, since in all the cases in Genesis 1 whe…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    You are asking that I don’t apply what I know to a passage, take away/hide the truth and understanding I have and then read a passage as if I am blind, that’s ridiculous, that’s a game I don’t want to play with you Mike.

    Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Even though Kathi’s unscriptural and nonsensical doctrine has been demolished by Jesus himself, I still want to get some closure on this subject that is important to me…

    LU: Jesus confirmed that He is properly called “God.” If the created beings were called god, how much more the uncreated and only begotten Son of God would be called “God…

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    LU:  John is not referring to the Father alone as God.

    John 1:18… No one has ever seen God…

    Is John referring to the Father ALONE as “God” in those words above?  Your statement above has been debunked.

    But let’s use a different verse to make sure…

    John 3:16… For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever b…[Read more]

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    Good Morning Gene,

    I don’t mind at all, thank you!

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    Jodi, I, transfered this from your last post to Mike, because i thought it is so important for everyone to read…….Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days. 3 Therefore will…[Read more]

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    Mike:  Would you agree that the most straightforward reading of Micah 5:2 tells of a future ruler who has already been around for a long time? 

     

    Jodi:  Actually no, reading it straight forward I see,

    from you  (Judah) shall “come forth” a ruler in Israel, which would be a prophecy, then reading,  “whose coming forth” is from of old, from an…

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    Jodi……Sorry to but in Sis, but you are apsolutely 100% right.  Hope Mike and others are able to follow and understand your last post clearly.

    Peace and love to you and yours……….gene

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 4 years ago

    Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type? Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?

    Do you believe that the Father and Son act as two opposing gods

    OR

    two beings who are both in the form of God acting interdependently towards the same purpose?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Mike,

    You asked:

    If the Father ALONE can be “God” for John, then there’s no reason that the Father ALONE can’t ALWAYS be “God” for everyone.

    John 1:18:

    How many are called “God” here, Mike:

    No one has ever yet seen God. The only begotten God, the One being in the bosom of the Father, He has made Him known.

    Is John referring to two persons as…[Read more]

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