@Danny Dabbs,

It describes the servant as innocent.

Go back a few post where I showed how “innocent” the Jesus was; he was violent, deceitful, was desired, and he wasn’t so hideous that people avoided him. For most of it I gave NT passages showing who the Jesus really was. So your the Jesus doesn’t fit Isaiah 53 either.

The general christi…[Read more]

@desiretruth,

Isaiah 53 is not a metaphor for the nation of Israel. It cannot be. It describes the servant as innocent.

“He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.”

The Israelites were certainly not innocent or blameless. I don’t think I have to quote…[Read more]

@Berean,

You were told it was a singular person; now prove it. I can prove the nation Israel was referred to the singular many times, so to say this passage specifically refers to a singular person (the Jesus) means nothing without evidence. To “believe”/“trust”/“have faith” that this passage is referring to the Jesus also means nothing, as…[Read more]

You see clearly that it is a person, this particular servant.

5] But HE was wounded 👉for our transgressions, HE was bruised 👉for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was 👉UPON HIM; and with HIS stripes we are healed.

@Berean,

If it’s about a person then you DON’T want it to be about the Jesus because he failed in every instance! You still haven’t proved 53 is speaking of the Jesus; where as I have gone thru the first part of the chapter compared it to the NT and have found fault after fault AND gave you sources for verification. Now who is being stubb…[Read more]

You are very wrong to be so stubborn.

Don’t you see that the text is about a person?

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“His face was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men,”

@Berean,

You really need to live up to your moniker “Berean”…remember they are the ones who verified everything.

Don’t thank me for filling in the blanks you were asked to fill in; that’s laziness on your part or the lack of understanding.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned everyone to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on…

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99.9999% on Earth are blinded by the darkness, 99% of all religion is false.

Where did you get these statistics?? There are about 8 billion people on this planet, it would mean there are only 800,000 who aren’t “blinded by the darkness.” This is an interesting statistic considering there are an estimated 9 million Jehovah Witnesses in the world…[Read more]

The chapter before (52) and after (54) are also about Israel; so why is 53 suddenly about the Jesus?

@DT
Thank you for your response.

So according to your understanding, 53:6 would be Israel.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned everyone to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him (Israel) the iniquity of us all.

This cannot be…[Read more]

A few post back I made a statement of how the christian is taught the bible confirms itself; now I have a passage that states exactly that, Amos 3:7 “For the Lord God will not do anything in the world, unless He first revealed His secret to His servants, the prophets, in order to warn the people.” So nothing is hidden and if the Jesus was this suf…[Read more]

@Berean,

Apparently you don’t want to go over this chapter again.

As far as who is speaking in the chapter, I’ll fill in the blanks for you since you can’t:

52:13-15 – God describes the suffering and eventual restoration of the servant (Israel) and it shocks the nations.
53:1-3 – The nations restate what God said in 52:13-15.
53:4-9 – The nat…[Read more]

If Jesus came as a mortal on Earth today–they would kill him. Why? Man lives in fear-not love. At the end of the Great tribulation ( Rev 16)Every kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) will be mislead into standing in opposition to Gods king( Jesus)—- they come to kill it says. They are mislead now and are standing in opposition. 99.9999% on Earth…[Read more]

You do realize the question I asked will cause you to answer your own questions. This will be a series of questions and subsequent answers for you to verify and for you to prove me either right or wrong.

You’re asking a question I have already answered in previous post; I have been over this chapter verse by verse. So to ask this question again…[Read more]

I asked you two specific questions in my last post

1) And you, are you sure you have verified EVERYTHING?

2) Are you truly capable of telling us who it is upon whom God has laid the iniquity of us all? (As it is written in verse 6)

IF YES, THEN TELL US ABOUT THE ONE UPON WHOM GOD HAS LAYED THE INiQUITY OF US ALL.

@Berean,

We have been over this verse by verse before and will gladly go over it again; however, part of having a conversation is injecting your thoughts into it and supporting what you believe. Back up what you believe with scripture.

There are basically four sections in this “Fourth Servant Song”; who is speaking where?

52:13-15
53:1-3
53:4-9
53:10-12

When will you verify for yourself if what you have been taught is true?

@ DT

And you, are you sure you have verified EVERYTHING?

Are you truly capable of telling us who it is upon whom God has laid the iniquity of us all? (As it is written in verse 6)

IF YES, THEN TELL US ABOUT THE ONE UPON WHOM GOD HAS LAYED THE INQUIRY OF US ALL.

@Berean,

You are so far over in your head! You can’t explain what Isaiah 53 is saying; yet, you’re going to use it as “proof” this “servant” is the Jesus?!?!!? You where told it was a reference to the Jesus, not that it’s what the chapter is about. To find out who this “servant” is, one would have to read the previous chapters (start in 41); it…[Read more]