Jodi: Mike, which is it? He was conceived by the Holy Spirit or he was a spirit entity being sent down from heaven into a woman’s uterus being transformed into a human? These seem like two different things to me so please explain. What does that even mean, being conceived by the Holy Spirit?

I believe that Jesus existed in the form of a god, th…[Read more]

lol I just realized that I said out ways instead of out weighs, oops. I am sure you knew what I meant 😉

Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days. 3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall…[Read more]

Jodi:  Second, the Gospel writers wrote after the Son of Man ascended to sit at God’s right hand right?

This is another point of disagreement between us that has no bearing on whether or not Jesus existed in heaven before existing on earth as a human being.  Therefore I have no interest in this particular point at this time.  Maybe some other time…[Read more]

Jodi: Hi Mike,

First off, you STILL have not addressed Matthew 1 and him giving us the BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN, the BOOK OF his GENEA/GENETIC LINE.

Hi Jodi.  Joseph adopting Jesus as his own son even though Joseph knew that he had nothing whatsoever to do with the existence of this child that was conceived – not by Joseph but by the Hol…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

First off, you STILL have not addressed Matthew 1 and him giving us the BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN, the BOOK OF his GENEA/GENETIC LINE. 

Second, the Gospel writers wrote after the Son of Man ascended to sit at God’s right hand right?

Before he ascended after he rose from the dead Jesus even taught them of the OT scriptures…[Read more]

@t8

You mentioned in 3 recent posts that the writers of the Bible were lacking knowledge about how our world really is.

Do you stand by that statement?  Yes or No?

*Honest and respectful questions deserve honest and respectful answers from people who are sincerely seeking nothing but the truth.

@t8

God created the raqia on Day 2.

1.  Where was God living before then?

2.  Did God move into the raqia after He created it?

3.  Or does God still dwell where He always did… outside of our physical realm?

Honest and respectful questions deserve honest and respectful answers from people who are truly and sincerely “truth seekers”.

Are yo…[Read more]

Gene:  i see it as a complete waste of our time, and robbing people of growing in grace and knowledge of the truth.

Gene, how in the world could I possibly waste YOUR time by posting things that you aren’t even required to read?  🤔🙄

And let’s face it, Gene, you AREN’T actually interested in truth at all.  If you were, you’d just directly an…[Read more]

Proclaimer and Gene keep overlooking the fact that the sun, moon and stars are IN the raqia that the waters are ABOVE.

That’s why I drew that cartoon for them. If the raqia is the space between the sea and the clouds, then the sun, moon, and stars must be IN the space between the sea and the clouds.
Gene and Proclaimer:
Please directly address t…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Raqia is called heaven and there are three heavens.

It’s clear to us that you are PRETENDING to believe that heaven and raqia mean the exact same thing.  Of course you already know that’s not true, but to admit that there is only ONE raqia, while there are THREE heavens would mean you would have to directly address what the waters a…[Read more]

Proclaimer: I personally think that when you are right with God, you will love the truth and not reject it. You will test what you believe so you are sure. You will not be proud, obstinate, and delusional. You will not cling to lies. The Spirit of Truth which makes us sons of God will never lead us into delusions. Delusion is a fruit that exposes…

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Kathi, I posted this a while ago…

Please address it.  Thanks.

LU:  YHVH as a Unity:

For Yahweh your God, he is God of gods, and Lord of lords…

together with this:

is Lord of lords and King of kings…

 

Mike:  That’s it?  Is that REALLY the only verse on which your entire “Jesus is Yahweh Jr” doctrine is based?  Wow, Kathi.  Just wow.

Kathi, please answer.  Is that REALLY the only OT verse on which y…[Read more]

LU: Jesus confirmed that He is properly called “God.” If the created beings were called god, how much more the uncreated and only begotten Son of God would be called “God,” even “YHVH God.”

 

Mike:  We’re getting there.  First, who exactly were these “created beings” that were called gods (not “god”) by Yahweh in Psalm 82?  (It’s important to…

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LU: The word Yahweh is not in the NT. The idea is certainly there.

No it’s not.  There is nothing even close to your doctrine taught anywhere in the NT… or in the OT..

LU:  …the Christ is the second Yahweh. Certainly they didn’t think that the Father, Yahweh, was also the Christ.

Of course they didn’t think the Father, ie: “God”, was the Chri…[Read more]

LU:  The Bible does not say that all of God’s spirit sons are made in His image. Man is made in His image.

And what does that mean that we are made in His image?  Are we all two persons in one unity, but for some odd reason addressed with SINGULAR pronouns?

Does being the image OF God ever mean that we ARE God?

Of course not.  Now go apply that…[Read more]

Mike:  Kathi, how do you explain these clear contradictions between your doctrine and the Bible?  How do you explain the fact that John 1:18 clearly and undeniably distinguishes the Son as someone OTHER THAN God, whom he made known to us?

 

LU:  If there are two members within a unity and both are in the form of God yet act as one God, one of…

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Jodi:  Jesus is not declared to be God’s Son by the Gospel writers until he is anointed of the Spirit becoming the promised Messiah, until the Spirit of God descends to LIVE IN Jesus without measure, which means the exact same thing as being born of the Spirit…

1.  The Gospel writers couldn’t very well declare something about someone they did…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer

I’m going to ask you straight.

Are you a Seventh Day Adventist Flat Earther? 

Me

Seventh Day Adventist YES
BUT FOR THE REST IF THE EARTH IS A GLOBE OR FLAT, IT IS SECONDARY FOR ME.
I WANT TO BE GUIDED BY THE SURE AND SOLID WORD OF GOD.

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and th…[Read more]