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    If you insist on a single unique raqia, then it is called heaven and we all know that there are at least three heavens.

    How many raqias are there?

    Don’t know. God called the raqia – heaven, and there are at least three heavens that I know of.

    The raqyia of Genesis 1 is unique.
    In this raqyia are the sun, the moon and the stars….(second h…

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    THE RAQYIA OF GENESIS 1 IS UNIQUE.
    IN THIS RAQYIA ARE THE SUN, THE MOON AND THE STARS….(Second Heaven)
    Birds ALSO FLY THERE (First Sky)

    AND ABOVE THE RAQUYIA ARE “THE WATERS” SAY THE WATERS FROM ABOVE.
    IT’S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND ALL THIS…..?

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    Gene

    Berean……You don’t understand the concept between the First love, which Jesus told the rich man was God, the greatest love we should all have, God the Father wascalwsys Jeus’ “first love”. BUT TGE CHURCH OF Ephesus , made Jesus their first love….. Etc

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    IT’S NOT GOING BETTER GENE.
    WHAT YOU SAY IS ENTIRELY FALSE. THIS IS PURE HERESY. IT…[Read more]

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    Berean……You don’t understand the concept between the First love, which Jesus told the rich man was God, the greatest love we should all have, God the Father wascalwsys Jeus’ “first love”. BUT TGE CHURCH OF Ephesus , made Jesus their first love and were rejected by God, just as Rev 2 Shows, the same exact same thing has taken place in nearly…[Read more]

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    Mike you said……”And does God live in the raqia? “OF COURSE NOT”.  God dwells outside of our physical world – just as He did before He created our physical world”.

    But you see God does live in the heaven, if you believe what Jesus said, (not me). “Pray this way….“our Father who “IS” “IN” heaven”,  and again , “your Father who “IS” “IN”  Heav…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Hère is the Daily Devotional

     

    <span style=”color: #3366ff;”>DOESN’T JESUS SUPPORT TH DRINKING OF WINE? PART 2 </span>

    The whole of Scripture is clearly and adamantly against the consumption of alcohol, but human nature will look for any textual ambiguity as a “loophole” to justify drinking it. An example of this is the wedding…

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    Pretender:  I created some space in my garage. So the stars are there now.

    I understand.  This has got to be very hard for you.  You know that what you wrote above is absurd, and you even feel ashamed for writing it.  But what choice did you have?  You either have to somehow keep the fight going – no matter how ridiculous it makes you look – or y…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer:  But God called the raqia – heaven and there are at least three heavens…

    How many raqias?

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    Now you only need to place the sun, moon and stars IN that Space/Expanse/Raqia that is between the clouds and the sea.  Can you do that?

    I created some space in my garage. So the stars are there now.

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    Not me.  When SpaceX started doing these stunts, I honestly and seriously wondered if it was a test to see just how far a gullible public could be detached from their God-given common sense.

    If God meant us to fly he would have created us with wings right Mike?

    But I bet you would miss technology if the earth was run by flat earthers. There…[Read more]

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    There is no second raqia. Read the words carefully…

    But God called the raqia – heaven and there are at least three heavens and we call what we see in the sky and beyond – space.

    Genesis 1… 6And God said, Let there be A firmament (raqia) in the midst of the waters, and let IT divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made THE firmament, and div…

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    Not me.  When SpaceX started doing these stunts, I honestly and seriously wondered if it was a test to see just how far a gullible public could be detached from their God-given common sense.  I still think that is exactly the case.  If they can get gullible people to believe this nonsense, then they can get them to believe that you can catch a…[Read more]

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    This is a photo I took of the moon during the day.  Notice that its brightness matches the white of the clouds…

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    This is a photo I took of the moon and a security light in the dark.  Notice that the brightness of one matches the other…

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    Now consider the Inverse Square Law of light.  It isn’t a theory, but a Scientific LAW.  It say…[Read more]

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    Pretender: Mike, the clouds are above the space that the sea is below.

    Clouds ↓

    Space / Expanse / Atmosphere / Raqia

    ↑ Sea

    Simple enough I would have thought.

    Now you only need to place the sun, moon and stars IN that Space/Expanse/Raqia that is between the clouds and the sea.  Can you do that?

    Pretender:  In the second heaven there is also s…

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    Physicist

    I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

    The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely p

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    A message from a flat Earther
    The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little, it didn’t do that for some reason.

    I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

    The bible teaches the world is flat,…[Read more]

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    A message from a physicist
    I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.
    The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.
    Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

    This also means that,…[Read more]

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    Mike, the clouds are above the space that the sea is below.

    Clouds

    Space / Expanse / Raqia

    Sea.

    Simple enough I would have thought.

    In the second heaven / raqia, we have the realm of stars and other worlds.

    Third heaven is the dwelling of the throne of God.

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Mike:  I read all your scriptures, and didn’t see any of them that refer to Abraham rejoicing to see Jesus’ day. Just like you finally acknowledged that there are no prophesies to Abraham about a future ruler, you’ll have to honestly acknowledge that there are no scriptures that say Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus’ day.

     

    Jodi:  Um, how about thi…

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    Jodi: We are given in Matthew the GENESIS/ORIGIN of Jesus Christ and it’s Abraham…

    The origin of Jesus as Christ which thus makes him the ruler over Israel, however comes from being of the seed of Abraham. This is why Matthew says that he is giving us the book of the origin of Jesus Christ and that origin given is Abraham, not Adam.

    …from y…

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