Proclaimer:  But God called the raqia – heaven and there are at least three heavens…

How many raqias?

Now you only need to place the sun, moon and stars IN that Space/Expanse/Raqia that is between the clouds and the sea.  Can you do that?

I created some space in my garage. So the stars are there now.

Not me.  When SpaceX started doing these stunts, I honestly and seriously wondered if it was a test to see just how far a gullible public could be detached from their God-given common sense.

If God meant us to fly he would have created us with wings right Mike?

But I bet you would miss technology if the earth was run by flat earthers. There…[Read more]

There is no second raqia. Read the words carefully…

But God called the raqia – heaven and there are at least three heavens and we call what we see in the sky and beyond – space.

Genesis 1… 6And God said, Let there be A firmament (raqia) in the midst of the waters, and let IT divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made THE firmament, and div…

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Not me.  When SpaceX started doing these stunts, I honestly and seriously wondered if it was a test to see just how far a gullible public could be detached from their God-given common sense.  I still think that is exactly the case.  If they can get gullible people to believe this nonsense, then they can get them to believe that you can catch a…[Read more]

This is a photo I took of the moon during the day.  Notice that its brightness matches the white of the clouds…

This is a photo I took of the moon and a security light in the dark.  Notice that the brightness of one matches the other…

Now consider the Inverse Square Law of light.  It isn’t a theory, but a Scientific LAW.  It say…[Read more]

Pretender: Mike, the clouds are above the space that the sea is below.

Clouds ↓

Space / Expanse / Atmosphere / Raqia

↑ Sea

Simple enough I would have thought.

Now you only need to place the sun, moon and stars IN that Space/Expanse/Raqia that is between the clouds and the sea.  Can you do that?

Pretender:  In the second heaven there is also s…

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A message from a flat Earther
The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat,…[Read more]

A message from a physicist
I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.
The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.
Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that,…[Read more]

Mike, the clouds are above the space that the sea is below.

Clouds

Space / Expanse / Raqia

Sea.

Simple enough I would have thought.

In the second heaven / raqia, we have the realm of stars and other worlds.

Third heaven is the dwelling of the throne of God.

Mike:  I read all your scriptures, and didn’t see any of them that refer to Abraham rejoicing to see Jesus’ day. Just like you finally acknowledged that there are no prophesies to Abraham about a future ruler, you’ll have to honestly acknowledge that there are no scriptures that say Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus’ day.

 

Jodi:  Um, how about thi…

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Jodi: We are given in Matthew the GENESIS/ORIGIN of Jesus Christ and it’s Abraham…

The origin of Jesus as Christ which thus makes him the ruler over Israel, however comes from being of the seed of Abraham. This is why Matthew says that he is giving us the book of the origin of Jesus Christ and that origin given is Abraham, not Adam.

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Jodi: Why didn’t the author just use the same word then, if it is suppose to read Abraham existed, I existed?

Because two different words are used that leaves an opening that the author speaking God’s word used two different words for the very purpose to establish a distinction.

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Mike: “In which part of Jesus’ response, exactly, is Jesus saying he is greater than Abraham? Which exact words?”

“Do you acknowledge that IF we translated the last part of 8:58 as a historical present, the EXACT phrase would be, “before Abraham existed, I existed”? Yes or No, please?”

 

Jodi:  NO

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Hi LU,

YOU:

Believers would not be named YHVH anymore than the members of Israel all being named Israel. They are of Israel and also called Israelites.

Also, many sons have the first name of their father but not all the sons of that father are given the first name of the father.

Hence, Jesus was given the name of His Father…YHVH. There is no p…[Read more]

Mike: PROCLAIMER, DOES THE PLURAL WORD “DAYS” EVER REFER TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN LITERAL DAYS IN THE BIBLE?  YES OR NO?  AND IF YES, SHOW THE SCRIPTURE(S) IN WHICH IT IS EXPLICITLY AND UNDENIABLY MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THESE DAYS ARE INDEED SOMETHING OTHER THAN LITERAL DAYS.

The first time I asked it, you ignored it.

The second time I asked…

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Okay.  Just remember to include the scriptures that deal with zooming things back up over the horizon when you ask your question.

Berean: The point is that YOU keep thinking that the raqia OF heaven is the entirety of heaven when it’s not.  The raqia OF heaven is NOT the first heaven where the clouds are.  The raqia OF heaven is not the third heaven where God dwells – outside of the physical world He created for us.  The raqia is ONLY the second heaven, where the sun, mo…

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Gene:  Mike ……Answer to you question is 1…yes, 2…yes, and 3… no.   There you go, now that i have answered your question…

Sorry Gene, but I’m going to need a valid REASON/EXPLANATION for your “No” answer on #3… or at least a DUPLICATION of the same answer for the following analogy so that we know you are being consistent, and not just flat ou…[Read more]