Adam is the first son that human sons are modeled after.

Correct.

But some humans will be modelled after the final Adam.

So the first Adam is not the only prototype. He is for some however.

Flesh first then Spirit.

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is…[Read more]

Hi Danny.

The answer is well known.

Up and down is drawn from the centre of the earth. There is no universal up as you assume. It’s quite easy to prove.

See if there are any basic science classes you can do where you live.

@t8

 Gene 

You

God the Father is “against” all who say Jesus “preexisted” his birth on this earth, …..

Me

BIG LIE Gene

To all…….What Jesus is,  is the finish product of what God the Father started with Adam and Eve.  Jesus is what God had in mind from the very beginning of his creation of all mankind.  Jesus is God the Fathers word (of prophesy) that came into being , as a flesh and blood human being, when he was born on this earth.  He was Baptized and rec…[Read more]

Hi to all

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WHY DID JOHN THE BAPTIST SAY THAT HE WAS NOT ELIJAH WHEN JESUS SAID THAT HE WAS?

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Yes, Adam was / is a prototype too.
I guess all species had a prototype.

But, all in Adam die, all in Christ shall live.
If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?

Proclaimer,

You asked:

So who is the first type then? The first Son?

Adam is the first son that human sons are modeled after.

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I disagree that the Son is a prototype of any other type of sons. No other sons are just like him. A prototype would imply others of the same type but the Son is an only son of his type, modeled after His  Father. The Son was not created, nor born again, both which bring a sort of sonship that the Son does not share.

Of course you disagree…[Read more]

Proclaimer: But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out.

LU: That sounds like the Father is not independent of the Son but rather they are both i…

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Carmel……Truth is you simply don’t believe God , nor what he says ,  (not me) ……YOU SHALL HAVE “NO” , “OTHER” GOD BESIDES ME”,  NOR SHALL YOU MAKE “ANY” “IMAGE OF ME IN HEAVEN OR EARTH”…… COMMANDMENT number 1 

How bold you are   how breave you speek, in defiance of what our God and Jesus Christ  “plainly” said.  well we wilall see how…[Read more]

Hi to all

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APPLE OF YOUR EYE

The human eye is one of the most fascinating and complex organs of the body. It is one of the many features of creation that has baffled evolutionists because of the intricate and interdependent way in which it functions. The dark hole in the middle of our eye is called the pupil. It…[Read more]

Uggjjbiko

Proclaimer……. your teaching is very much like the teachibgs of the “21st century reformation”,  check it out on line and just see what you think,  maybe talk to them about usibg you site as a branch.  I agree with their teachings also brother. 

Peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………..gene

Hi to all

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NEBUCHADNEZZAR THE PROUD

Tarquin the Proud was the last king of Rome. He became king by murdering his father-in-law, Servius Tullius. He earned the name “Tarquin the Proud” by refusing to bury Tullius’ body and killing several prominent senators known to have supported Tullius. The tyranny that chara…[Read more]

Hi to all

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THE $500,000 BATH 

In 1851, Maha Mongkut, also known as Rama IV, ascended the throne as the king of Siam (now better known as Thailand). Mongkut was a true monarch, with total power over his five and a half million subjects. But he was also different from previous Siamese kings. Before becoming king he…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Happy New Year to you,  and everyone else here,  we have another 17 hours to go, here in Fresno, California , USA.

Peace and love to you all and yours……..gene