@ Berean,

Our understanding of Micah 5:2 is quite different. This passage for you is evidence to the “preexistence” of Christ. What it actually speaks of is a ruler who’s origins were foreknown from the beginning.

The Aramaic translation puts this verse in another perspective:

And you, Bethlehem Ephratah, though you are little among the thous…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Thanks for posting on this topic!

I will respond directly to your post incorporating the scriptures you cited, but I would like to see you respond specifically to those I sighted in my first post and see you counter the position I gave that was based from them. That would be much appreciated!

Gene

What does that have to do with what I was telling you before?

Berean…….Jesus said (not me)…..“this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU”,  the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, and Jesus Christ who you have sent”. 

And again scriptures says (not me) …….“but unto us there is but “ONE” God, and one “MEDIATOR”,  between God and men, the “MAN” Jesus Christ”. 

And again scripture says (not me) …..“GOD IS NOT…[Read more]

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A rigorous argument for Intelligent Design
Nowadays, the media often depicts science and Christianity as in a constant state of conflict and strife. However, this has not always been the case since many of the most famous scientists in history were devout Christians. In this statement, Dr. Stephen Meyer clarifies that the two are not in conflict…[Read more]

Hi to all

Continuation

The Battle of the Bibles

Chapter Fourteen

Dividers of the Faith

The Christians of the early fourth century must have welcomed the news of Emperor Constantine’s
conversion to Christianity (circa 313 AD). For long and weary years, they had felt the oppressive heel of
Diocletian, the pagan Roman Emperor, who used the…[Read more]

It’s incredible how some people without access to proper education dismiss education as fraudulent. Nonetheless, basic observations of the Earth confirm it to be a planet. In fact, humans deduced the Earth’s spherical shape approximately 2500 years ago by observing the following:

1. Ships sailing off into the sea
2. Lunar eclipses
3. The horizon at…

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@ DesireTruth

It seems to me that I asked you a question which you did not answer.
About the origin of the Son of God in relation to Micah 5:2
I asked you to tell me what you thought of it.
here…i’m waiting
THANKS

@ Berean, you state in reference to Col 1:16-17:

“BECAUSE BY HIM WERE ALL THINGS CREATED ….(see v. 16-17)
In other words CHRIST ORIGINALLY HAD TO BE OUR CREATOR IN ORDER TO BE OUR REDEEMER”

Please scripturally support Jesus is our creator and “had” to be “in order” to be our redeemer.

Psalm 33 (read the entire chapter). Jesus is the creator…[Read more]

Hi  Jodi

The end of the verse 16 IS NOT” By reason of him …..”

BUT  👉 “BY HIM “….

BECAUSE

“IN HIM” IS THE SAME THAT ” BY HIM”

For by/in him were all things created, …….

,……. all things were created by him, and for him. 

ALSO, for my understanding
by reason of him, it’s the same as: for him
and it is repeating itself to say “b…[Read more]

Gene

There is a big difference between Paul’s wholesome exhortations and your casting doubts, all to justify your Antichrist views.

Hi Berean,

ME:

IN Christ Jesus were all things created, they were created by reason of him and for him.

YOU:

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before…[Read more]

Berean……..You bet I cast doubt on the  New Testement,  translations,  epically when and where it contradicts  the old Testement.

As Desire truth, has said you are living in a “box” , YES a box  created for you by,  the SEVENTH DAY ADVANTISTS,  a box without a door.

By the way it wasn’t me who told us to do what I said, it was THE APOSTA…[Read more]

Hi to all

Chapter Thirteen
Early Christian Missionaries
37
It is easy for present-day Christians to forget that the first Christians, as with Jesus and His disciples,
were Jews. With the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD there was a great migration to Syria, including
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This presentation delves into Old Earth Creationism and describes what a pre-Adamite world might have been like using scripture. He also delves into Genesis and describes the difference between creating something and bringing forth something.

Jodi

Jésus IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON GOD FROM HEAVEN

HE SAY

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
And this is the will of him that sent…[Read more]

Jodi

You

IN Christ Jesus were all things created, they were created by reason of him and for him. 

Me

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

I think it’s funny how you said “no argument”!

YOU:

Jesus Christ is the Word of God, the son of God, the son of Man, the final Adam, lord, savior and messiah. That is how you account for it. He was with God, came in the flesh, and is back with God in the glory he had before the cosmos. And we know that the Word was WITH God…[Read more]

Gene

why cast doubt on the new testament?
I do not agree. And I think Jesus disagrees, neither does the Father.

🙏