@Proclaimer,

Que?!!?

I didn’t say verse 4, but day 4 was when G-d created natural light; where HE placed the sun, moon, and stars to govern the day and the night. Nothing in the creation account does it speak of “clouds thinning out” and there being light. There’s a theory which states there was a “cloud” that covered the entire planet crea…[Read more]

@Lightenup,

Your original statement of G-d being “two persons” is false (some will say three – that trinity thing…huge false). I don’t understand how you come to that conclusion quoting Deut 10:17. This passage states G-d is G-d and Lord (don’t throw out the conjunction) and when read in context (verses 12-22) HE is telling Israel they are t…[Read more]

On the fourth day HE created heavenly bodies to govern the day and the night. Prior to that what was the source of light…G-d

It actually doesn’t say that God created the Sun and the Moon in verse 4. Rather it says that they appeared in the firmament / sky / atmosphere. Such is possible when thick choking clouds are not present. Prior to Day 1, G…[Read more]

The proclamation that for “us”, we have one God and one Lord, seems to tie back to the fact that YHVH is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, two persons.

It means what it says:

There is one Theos AND One Kyrios.

And it is obvious that the Father is God and Jesus is Lord.

@DesireTtuth

Feel free to examine what is written and give any thoughtful wisdom in response that the LORD gives you.

Blessings,

LU

Using AI to answer your questions…what could go wrong!?!?

@Berean

Furthermore, as a follow up question, I asked GROK this for your benefit as an SDA:

Is it possible that Ellen White would believe that Jesus is the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy 10:17?

GROK’s reply:

Yes, it is possible that Ellen White would believe Jesus is the “Lord of lords” described in Deuteronomy 10:17. As a co-founder of Seventh-day…

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@Berean

Thanks for your answer. This might be an interesting discussion. I asked GROK this question:

Is it possible that Jesus is the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy 10:17

Here is the answer it gave me:

Yes, from a Christian theological perspective, it is possible—and indeed a common interpretation—that Jesus is identified with the “Lord of lor…

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Do you agree that Deut 10:17 could be mentioning two persons as YHWH, God of gods and Lord of lords, in light of there being one God and one Lord as mentioned in the NT?

Hi LU

NO

In Deuteronomy 10:17,
the GOD of gods and the Lord of lords is the Father of Jesus.
But I do not forget that God, the Father of Jesus, did everything (and still…[Read more]

@Proclaimer

You wrote:

Hebrews 3:11 (quoting Psalm 95:11):
“So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.”

You do realize that verse has nothing to do with the seventh day rest, right? The rest mentioned in Hebrews 3:11 is about the particular generation of Israelites not being allowed into the promise land due to their dis…[Read more]

@Proclaimer

You asked:

So you’re saying it was a spiritual day / light that also had evening and morning?

Good question, I think that the light of day one has to do with the Son of God who is “The Light of the World” entering the dimension of creation.

The term “day” was what God called the light. The darkness that was called night is d…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

I’m happy to see you as well. I appreciate your kind words.

I agree with what you wrote. Do you agree that Deut 10:17 could be mentioning two persons as YHWH, God of gods and Lord of lords, in light of there being one God and one Lord as mentioned in the NT?

Deut 10:17 For He, your God YHWH, God of the gods and Lord of the…[Read more]

On the first day G-d created light and darkness, HE separated the two; can time, as we understand it, exist without “light”? Theoretically it can, but it would be unobservable. So, on the first day G-d created time when HE separated light from darkness and it was so man could observe it.

On the fourth day HE created heavenly bodies to govern the…[Read more]

@Berean,

“The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty; for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the S…

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Hi Lightenup

I’m quite happy to see you back on the forum and that you now have time to discuss biblical truth.

Eph.4
I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Endeavouring to keep the…[Read more]

There are a few key takeaways in this post.

Does a Creation Day = 24 hours?

Hi all
Rome Says it is Better for the World to Live without the Sun than without Sunday Mass
For centuries, Rome has promoted what Scripture calls the “wine of her fornication” (Revelation 17:2)—teachings and traditions that replace God’s truth with human authority. Chief among these is the elevation of Sunday as the “Sabbath,” a direct cont…[Read more]

We are told that the sun was created on day four and it is the sun that rules the day and the sun, moon and stars are to separate the light from the darkness. So, I assume that on day four, the 24 hour cycle was put into place. Before that day, I think the light was of the spiritual nature rather than a physical nature. The spiritual light, imo,…

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