To all…….The greatest lesson learned here is this……Psa 127:1……”Except the LORD build the house, they labor in vain that build it.”

peace and love to you all……….gene

@ Berean,

What is this “mystery of God” in Col 2:2? Explain its meaning.

You also state: “For me Jesus is not just a man. HE IS THE 👉DIVINE 👈 SON OF GOD
WHO HAS CLOTHED OUR HUMANITY IN ORDER TO SAVE US FROM SIN.”

Can you provide any scripture that states Christ existed in a dual form?

@ Jodi

Tell me when was the last time I misused the word Christ.
And how do you see COLOSSIANS 2:2?
For in this verse, the mystery of Christ is on the same plane as the mystery of God.

That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgment of👉 the…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: It is not, our God was in the form of God before he became the anointed Jesus.

Me: WITH THE SAME ARGUMENT
YOUR SOUL IS NOT YOU before you were born!
DO YOU ACCEPT THAT?

YES OR NO PLEASE!

MORE TO COME:

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

Hi Berean,

You use CHRIST incorrectly.

<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>The man</span> Jesus is called Christ <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>BECAUSE</span> he was anointed of the Spirit to be sent out into the world to speak God’s words and to do God’s works in God’s name and fulfill God’s will. 

It is not, our God was in the form of God before he…[Read more]

The sun is too far away to see on a flat earth argument
Status: Debunked

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel…….Jesus said (not me)…….“no man CAN COME UNTO ME,  except the Father “DRAW”, him.”

The above confirms that YOU ARE SIMPLY BLIND!

JESUS CONFIRMED AND SAID:

“no man CAN COME UNTO ME,  except the Father “DRAW”, him.”

Me:  Gene, WHY DOES THE FATHER DRAW MEN TO JESUS?

Read:

John14:6 Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and…[Read more]

@ Jodi

In fact Jodi, you are denying the mystery of God and the Father and Christ.

You say Christ has nothing to do with being God (Theos) as in John 1:1)

You have great difficulty in conceiving that the equal of GOD (Phil.2:6) was MADE FLESH….(John1:1)

And yet …. I tell you: it’s THE TRUTH, I’m not lying. God the Father is my witness, as…[Read more]

@ Jodi

When I say ‘just a man’, there is nothing pejorative about it.
I REPEAT: THERE IS NOTHING PEJORATIVE.

Hi Desire Truth,

Wow, you really nailed something in your last post. Thank you!

When debating on this forum to test and prove all things to then see people just shut down when given certain scriptures shows a great deal of weakness with their doctrine.

Hi Berean,

You said, “just a man”.

This truly exposes your mindset of complete denial of profound meaningful scriptures.

According to you, are we to believe that the idea of Jesus ONLY existing as a human being would then strip him of all his glory??

Such is NOT AT ALL what God’s word gives us.

Isaiah 11: 1 And there shall come forth a rod…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

COUNT NIKOLAUS LUDWIG VON ZINZENDORF ANOTHER “RICH YOUNG RULER”

Nikolaus Ludwig von Zinzendorf grew up in a Christian home, and thus it’s difficult to pinpoint the moment when this young nobleman—a far different “rich young ruler” than the one found in Scripture—received Christ as his Savior. But t…[Read more]

@dannyd

Please explain this phenomenon if the world we live on is a flat disc.
You can’t. This means your teaching and belief is fake.
At this point all you can do is either repent or explain how this matches reality.
For the record, the globe model fits this observation.

Hi Jodi,

You: If Jesus was without sin, then he wouldn’t need to be baptized#943022

Me: Jodi, read the scripture hereunder, it didn’t confirm

THAT JESUS WAS BORN OF GOD’S SPIRIT?

It didn’t also confirm that Jesus BORN OF GOD’S SPIRIT WAS DEFINITELY

WITHOUT THE LEAST STAIN OF SIN?

Luke 2: 49And he said to them: How is it that you sought m…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Refusing to apply scripture directly where God intended it to be applied to.

Me: Now, Jodi, TO ACHIEVE what you’re suggesting, what kind of wisdom, or knowledge, would you refer to?

Also, just to keep you in mind of the truth,

WE ARE DISCUSSING GOD’S GENERAL TASK ON EARTH AS A HUMAN IN JESUS,

SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINNING…[Read more]

@ Berean,

Your statement is the main reason this debate has been raging for the last 20 years; no one wants to verify what they have been told or taught to be truth is actually the truth. Doctrine has superseded God’s words and is why the church isn’t unified, why the church is collapsing, and why sin is running rampant within its walls. Truth…[Read more]

@ Jodi

No need to keep trying to convince me that Jesus is just a man.
Don’t waste your time with this, IT’S USELESS.

Hi Berean,

YOU:

The point of dispute is not there, it is on the fact that you believe in a Christ who is not NOT THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS….

“All things were made by him; and  without him was not any thing made that was made.”

This is the subject of the thread

ANY OTHER SAVIOR IS “OUTLAW”

ME:

The point of dispute is certainly there Bere…[Read more]

Carmel…….Jesus said (not me)…….“no man CAN COME UNTO ME,  except the Father “DRAW”, him.”   GOD the FATHER, Is my and Jesus’ FIRST LOVE,  Jesus, myself and all other things are our, “second love” .

remember what Jesus told the person who ask what is the greatest commandment ?,  …..“you shall “LOVE” the Lord you GOD , with “ALL” YOU HEART , wit…[Read more]

Carmel…….Jesus said (not me)…….“no man CAN COME UNTO ME,  except the Father “DRAW”, him.”   GOD the FATHER, Is my and Jesus’ FIRST LOVE,  Jesus, myself and all other things are our, “second love” .

remember what Jesus told the person who ask what is the greatest commandment ?,  …..“you shall “LOVE” the Lord you GOD , with “ALL” YOU HEART , wit…[Read more]