• Profile picture of DesireTruth

    Berean,

    How am I to explain myself when you have not answered the question? You demand answers to your questions; where are my answers? My response/explanation is dependent upon an answer. What is the Jewish understanding of coming from heaven and is Jesus coming from heaven the same as manna coming from heaven? It’s a simple question, stop…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago

    @ désire Truth

    It is up to you to explain yourself on the subject of Christ descended from heaven or not.

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    @ Berean,

    So is Christ decent from heaven the same as manna? Both “came down” from heaven.

    Is Jesus truly the archangel Micheal? Can you scripturally show where in the old testament this is stated?

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago

    @ DesireTruth

    You

    So what does is it mean to “descend from Heaven”? Is it to physically or in the mind of God?

    Me

    Explain your position biblically and we will see later.

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    @ Proclaimer,

    In all your have written, you still haven’t said what come “from heaven” means from a Jewish perspective.

    To say the “Jews rejected” Christ is a misnomer because you need to read the book of Acts. 3000 at Pentecost.

    So what does is it mean to “descend from Heaven”? Is it to physically or in the mind of God?

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    Also, if he didn’t descend, then he also didn’t ascend?

    No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

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    One man came from earth and the second man came from heaven.

    So if Jesus didn’t come from Heaven, then Adam didn’t come from earth?

    You have to be consistent.

    So, if coming from heaven doesn’t mean coming from heaven, then coming from earth doesn’t mean coming from earth?

    And, can we assume that the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down from…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @ Berean,

    You: “IS JESUS NOT IN A CERTAIN SENSE “THE FATHER”

    NO!!

    I thought Jesus was the archangel Micheal in the old testament…would that then make it the quadinitry. I’m confused!

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    @ Proclaimer,

    What is the Jewish understanding of what it means to come  “from heaven”?

    Answer that, and you may get an “amen.”

    Jesus did not preexist!

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    I’m not hearing any amens from you guys when I quote scripture. Lol. Your silence is deafening.

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    For believers only (doesn’t include skeptics)
    He came down from Heaven
    For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me; and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up at the last day.
    He was from Heaven
    The first man was of the dust of the…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    CHARLES H. SPURGEON THE PRINCE OF PREACHERS 

    In January 1892, the city of London, England, was plunged into mourning: Charles Haddon Spurgeon, a preacher not yet 60 years old, had died, months after giving his last sermon.

    When Spurgeon’s body lay in repose at his Metropolitan Tabernacle church—a 5,60…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago

    Hi all

    IS JESUS NOT IN A CERTAIN SENSE “THE FATHER” OF THOSE WHOSE HE IS THE SAVIOR GOD HAS GIVEN TO HIM?

    👇
    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace

    Hebrews 2

    For…[Read more]

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    Carmel……God is our Father , not Jesus,  or why would Jesus even say, (not me),  “I am going to my father “AND” your Father,  my God “AND”  your God”.

    If you truly had the “Spirit of truth” abiding in you , you could easily put that together. But you are of the evil one and are unable to see the truth, which even a child could see.  You as…[Read more]

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    Carmel……God is our Father , not Jesus,  or why would Jesus even say, (not me),  “I am going to my father “AND” your Father,  my God “AND”  your God”.

    If you truly had the “Spirit of truth” abiding in you , you could easily put that together. But you are of the evil one and are unable to see the truth, which even a child could see.  You as…[Read more]

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    Believe it or not
    What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

     Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.  And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,  who also said, “Men of G…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago

    Carmel……JESUS NEVER PREACHED “HIS” “GOSPEL”,  but the “GOSPEL OF THE KINGOM OF GOD’, 

    You will never have the Spirit of truth Gene,

    FIRST AND FOREMOST:

    THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ALSO
    THE KINGDOM OF THE SON!
    You: JESUS NEVER PREACHED “HIS” “GOSPEL”,
    Scriptures: 
    Mark 1:11 THE beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Carmel

    Hi Carmel

    The spirit and soul of man ARE NOT IMMORTAL…The soul that sinneth, it shall die.( The soul that sinneth, it shall die.(Eze.18:20)

    GOD ALONE IS IMMORTAL AND HE WILL GIVE IMMORTALITY TO THOSE WHO HAVE PURIFIED THEIR SOUL BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

    🙏

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    MARVELING AT GOD THROUGH NATURE 

    The driest place on Earth is the Atacama Desert near the Pacific coastline of Chile. The average rainfall in these desert mountains is less than .004 inches per year. There are even some locations within the desert where no rain has fallen for more than 400 years. Yet even…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Carmel……JESUS NEVER PREACHED “HIS” “GOSPEL”,  but the “GOSPEL OF THE KINGOM OF GOD’,  telling us to pray in this way,  “our father, (both his and ours) , who is in heaven, Holy be “YOUR” name,  “YOUR KINGDOM”  COME,  “YOUR” Will be done, on earth as it is done in heaven.  …….

    Seems you and Jesus have a different opinion on who’s “GO…[Read more]

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