DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Berean,
How am I to explain myself when you have not answered the question? You demand answers to your questions; where are my answers? My response/explanation is dependent upon an answer. What is the Jewish understanding of coming from heaven and is Jesus coming from heaven the same as manna coming from heaven? It’s a simple question, stop…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
@ désire Truth
It is up to you to explain yourself on the subject of Christ descended from heaven or not.
DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
@ Berean,
So is Christ decent from heaven the same as manna? Both “came down” from heaven.
Is Jesus truly the archangel Micheal? Can you scripturally show where in the old testament this is stated?
Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
@ DesireTruth
You
So what does is it mean to “descend from Heaven”? Is it to physically or in the mind of God?
Me
Explain your position biblically and we will see later.
DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
@ Proclaimer,
In all your have written, you still haven’t said what come “from heaven” means from a Jewish perspective.
To say the “Jews rejected” Christ is a misnomer because you need to read the book of Acts. 3000 at Pentecost.
So what does is it mean to “descend from Heaven”? Is it to physically or in the mind of God?
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Also, if he didn’t descend, then he also didn’t ascend?
No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
One man came from earth and the second man came from heaven.
So if Jesus didn’t come from Heaven, then Adam didn’t come from earth?
You have to be consistent.
So, if coming from heaven doesn’t mean coming from heaven, then coming from earth doesn’t mean coming from earth?
And, can we assume that the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down from…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
@ Berean,
You: “IS JESUS NOT IN A CERTAIN SENSE “THE FATHER”
NO!!
I thought Jesus was the archangel Micheal in the old testament…would that then make it the quadinitry. I’m confused!
DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
@ Proclaimer,
What is the Jewish understanding of what it means to come “from heaven”?
Answer that, and you may get an “amen.”
Jesus did not preexist!
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
I’m not hearing any amens from you guys when I quote scripture. Lol. Your silence is deafening.
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
For believers only (doesn’t include skeptics)
He came down from Heaven
For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me; and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up at the last day.
He was from Heaven
The first man was of the dust of the…[Read more]Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 2 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
CHARLES H. SPURGEON THE PRINCE OF PREACHERS
In January 1892, the city of London, England, was plunged into mourning: Charles Haddon Spurgeon, a preacher not yet 60 years old, had died, months after giving his last sermon.
When Spurgeon’s body lay in repose at his Metropolitan Tabernacle church—a 5,60…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Hi all
IS JESUS NOT IN A CERTAIN SENSE “THE FATHER” OF THOSE WHOSE HE IS THE SAVIOR GOD HAS GIVEN TO HIM?
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Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of PeaceHebrews 2
For…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Carmel……God is our Father , not Jesus, or why would Jesus even say, (not me), “I am going to my father “AND” your Father, my God “AND” your God”.
If you truly had the “Spirit of truth” abiding in you , you could easily put that together. But you are of the evil one and are unable to see the truth, which even a child could see. You as…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Carmel……God is our Father , not Jesus, or why would Jesus even say, (not me), “I am going to my father “AND” your Father, my God “AND” your God”.
If you truly had the “Spirit of truth” abiding in you , you could easily put that together. But you are of the evil one and are unable to see the truth, which even a child could see. You as…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Believe it or not
What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, “Men of G…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Carmel……JESUS NEVER PREACHED “HIS” “GOSPEL”, but the “GOSPEL OF THE KINGOM OF GOD’,
You will never have the Spirit of truth Gene,
FIRST AND FOREMOST:
THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ALSO
THE KINGDOM OF THE SON!
You: JESUS NEVER PREACHED “HIS” “GOSPEL”,
Scriptures:
Mark 1:11 THE beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Hi Carmel
Hi Carmel
The spirit and soul of man ARE NOT IMMORTAL…The soul that sinneth, it shall die.( The soul that sinneth, it shall die.(Eze.18:20)
GOD ALONE IS IMMORTAL AND HE WILL GIVE IMMORTALITY TO THOSE WHO HAVE PURIFIED THEIR SOUL BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.
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Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 2 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
MARVELING AT GOD THROUGH NATURE
The driest place on Earth is the Atacama Desert near the Pacific coastline of Chile. The average rainfall in these desert mountains is less than .004 inches per year. There are even some locations within the desert where no rain has fallen for more than 400 years. Yet even…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Carmel……JESUS NEVER PREACHED “HIS” “GOSPEL”, but the “GOSPEL OF THE KINGOM OF GOD’, telling us to pray in this way, “our father, (both his and ours) , who is in heaven, Holy be “YOUR” name, “YOUR KINGDOM” COME, “YOUR” Will be done, on earth as it is done in heaven. …….
Seems you and Jesus have a different opinion on who’s “GO…[Read more]
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