Hi Gene, and ALL

Carmel…….Jesus said (not me) ….John 20:17…..”Jesus saith unto her,” Touch me not; for  I am not yet ascended to my Father:

I ascend to “MY” Father and “YOUR” Father, and to “MY” God and “YOUR” God. 

That’s what you should have posted Gene! 

WHY DIDN’T YOU DO THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

YOU SIMPLY PRODUCED YOUR OWN WORDS…[Read more]

In reference to John 20:17 “My Father, your Father; My God, your God.” Did the Jews think of God as their father? After doing a quick, simple search; let’s take a look…

Isa 63:16 “For you are our Father, though Abraham doesn’t know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us: you, Yahweh, are our Father; our Redeemer from everlasting is your name.”[Read more]

Proclaimer…….When are you going to let this flat earth BS , die , this is all of the world and has nothing to do with the KINGDOM OF GOD.  Why waste your and everyone else’s time with it. You to caught up in it , let it die brother.

peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer…….gene

Carmel…….Jesus said (not me) ….John 20:17…..”Jesus saith unto her,” Touch me not; for  I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my “BRETHREN” , and say unto them,  I ascend unto “MY” Father and “YOUR” Father, and to “MY” God and “YOUR” God. 

FIRST notice he called his disciples his “brothers”.   Second he say’s,  his Father is their Father…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Back to your post Page 1202 No.#943293

You: Carmel……God is our Father , not Jesus,  or why would Jesus even say, (not me),

 “I am going to my father “AND” your Father,  my God “AND”  your God”.

NO Gene: 

 ONLY YOU CORRUPTLY ARE SAYING THE ABOVE!

Mr. Spirit of TRUTH, 

WHERE AND IN WHICH SCRIPTURE WE CAN READ SPECIFICALLY THE ABOVE…[Read more]

@ Berean,

What truth have I rejected? Your belief system? Articulate.

@ desire Truth

All I see is you’re rejecting the simple truth , comme Gene et Jodi and you want to teach us…?

@ Berean,

You don’t see how that belief and understanding diminishes the Father?!!? The Father, who created the universe and all that is in it, is incapable of judging and redeeming HIS creation. My the God you serve is tiny! I believe the understanding you are missing is the Father/Son, King/Prince relationship. The son/prince can never be over…[Read more]

@ desire Truth

This almost sounds similar to what Berean wrote concerning God’s judgment and redemptive capabilities and not being able to do either without Christ.

Me

Scriptures

John 5
For the Father JUDGETH NO MAN, but hath committed ALL JUDGMENT UNTO THE SON : 
That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He th…[Read more]

@ Proclaimer,

YOU:

If Jesus Christ was not the literal firstborn of all creation, then this verse is impossible.

to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

Do I hear an amen to this verse. So far no one is saying amen to these verses in the New…[Read more]

Carmel………No matter how you try to corrupt our scriptures,  it plainly say  (not me) …..he is the firstborn “FROM THE DEAD”.  JESUS himself said …..“I was “DEAD” an am now alive “FOREVER MORE”,   That is the exact same thing that must happen to us.

You constantly try to make Jesus out to be different then his brothers and sisters,  that is exact…[Read more]

Hi to all *

Here is the Daily Devotional

HEAVENLY BREAD  

The fastest “bun” in the West goes to a team of bakers from Wheat Montana Farms and Bakery, who reclaimed the Guinness World Record in 1995. They harvested and milled wheat from the field and then mixed, scaled, shaped, and baked a loaf in exactly 8 minutes and 13 seconds.

Bread is a bas…[Read more]

Conservation of momentum
Flat Earthers do not understand conservation of momentum. Basically speaking, we only notice movement if we accelerate or decelerate. Otherwise, everything is still no matter what speed you are actually travelling at and your speed is constant.

Proclaimer…..Jesus was “not” the first born human,  “Cain was”,  

It seems to me quite clear, that you don’t know WHO CAIN WAS IN THE TRUTH!

You: Jesus holds first place in all human creation in this sense,

What you said above Gene, is proof that the  word

FIRST, when it refers to Jesus your understanding is even worse than WHO CAIN WAS…[Read more]

The circle of the earth
 

Job 26:10
He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

Flat Earth Bible
He has inscribed different shapes on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional
THE HUNTER VS. THE HUMBLE 
Lions are fierce hunters. Lionesses usually hunt for the pride in coordinated groups. They cannot sustain high speeds for long, so they stalk their prey, relying on cover or darkness to reduce visibility. While lions weigh between 260 and 400 pounds, their usual prey weighs…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional
THE HUNTER VS. THE HUMBLE 
Lions are fierce hunters. Lionesses usually hunt for the pride in coordinated groups. They cannot sustain high speeds for long, so they stalk their prey, relying on cover or darkness to reduce visibility. While lions weigh between 260 and 400 pounds, their usual prey weighs…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..Jesus was “not” the first born human,  “Cain was”,  Jesus holds first place in all human creation in this sense,  He is he “firstborn” into the kingdom of God , and holds that position.   Remember Jesus said (not me),  “you must be born again”. Jesus was also born again, exactly as we must also be.  GET IT? , When are you going to…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer

I say AMEN that God created everything through Jesus Christ and that everything subsists in Him (Jesus)(John 1:3/1Cor.8:6/ Col.1: 15-17)

🙏

Nestle GNT 1904

To God our Saviour, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, kingdom, and power for ever, now, and forever; amen.

Westcott and Hort 1881
To God alone, our savior,…[Read more]

I wonder how many of you care about free speech and free thought?

If you do not believe we have free will, then these are not possible.