• Profile picture of Berean

    @ Jodi

    You apply scriptures to your belief instead of having a belief that is based on applying scripture with scripture.

    Me

    WRONG

    YOU ARE GREATLY WRONG about the true origin of Christ.
    As far as I’m concerned I didn’t need a ton of verses to understand that Jesus came from the HEAVEN WHERE HE WAS WITH THE FATHER, SINCE HE SAID SO…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Berean,

    YOU:

    WRONG

    You twist the scriptures

    Jesus did pre-exist, otherwise he would not have said to the incredulous Jews:

    BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS  I AM

    JOHN THE BAPTIST ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT JESUS WAS BEFORE HIM:

    John 1:30

    This is   he  of whom I said, After me cometh  a man  which is preferred before me:  for he was before me.

    <…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Proclaimer…….Don’t you think it’s about time for you to think about all the other scriptures that might be showing you, some of you assumptions about who JESUS IS, MIGHT BE WRONG?  Desire Truth, has ask you for backup scriptures and scripture explaining your understanding when taking all the other scriptures that deal with who Jesus really i…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    If Jesus was indeed a man able to die who knew of prophecies concerning himself and who was also a prophet himself like unto Moses, raised up from among his brethren, he knew he was going to suffer, be crucified and die. He also knew and had faith in God that his body would not be allowed to see decay, that he would be resurrected unto life, no…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Gene,

    You: Carmel……I would be teaching my children “exactly” what I did .  

    YOUR words turns Jesus into a hypocrite ,  

    why would he ever tell us to do what he doesn’t himself do?

    Me: NO Gene IN A WAY, that’s your corrupted mentality and reasoning!

    JESUS WAS NOT PRAYING IN THAT PARTICULAR  CASE!

    WHENEVER JESUS PRAYED, MOSTLY HE WENT ALL…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @ Jodi

    You

    Jesus never taught that he pre-existed or that he was our Creator, he taught that he was the promised anointed human who would fulfill the reason why God, who ALONE, by HIMSELF, had created earth and man in the first place.  

    Me

    WRONG

    You twist the scriptures

    Jesus did pre-exist, otherwise he would not have said to the i…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Berean,

    When you leave out scriptures you create deception.

    The Son of Man was raised from the dead “now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David”. 

    This Jesus God raised up where he received the Promised Holy Spirit. 

    The Son of Man became a firstborn of many brethren.

    The Son of M…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    👇

    And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which👉 I HAD WITH THEE👈      👉BEFORE 
    THE
    WORLD WAS👈 
    🙏

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Gene

    Jodi has taken us through scripture after scripture and has put them ,  “CORRECTLY”  TOGETHER,  time and time again.  She has established Jesus’ origin from many, many, scriptures.  Why not just read them and see how they fit your belief system for a change? 

    Me

     
    WRONG!
     
    But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the t…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Proclaimer……YOU CHERRY PICK a few verses, but leave out all the many, many scriptures that they must conformed to, in order to be correctly understood and to get a more clear understanding of what the scriptures you use actually mean. Everything has to fit in order to draw a true conclusion.   That is. Why I said to you ,you seem unable to put…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

     
    LIVING FOSSIL 
     

    A few days before Christmas in 1938, a strange fish was caught in a net near the mouth of the Chalumna River in South Africa. Captain Hendrick Goosen and his crew thought the fish was bizarre enough to alert the local museum in the small town of East London. The director of the museum,…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @ Berean,

    You tell me what scripture says about “coming from heaven”! Don’t you dare throw this back in my court as I am asking YOU to explain what YOU believe it means! You are revealing something, you are simply parroting what you are told to believe and you have no idea why you believe what you believe.

    YOU:

    He was in the HEAVEN WITH THE F…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @ desire Truth

    You

    Do you see how you aren’t explaining what “come down from heaven” means? To simply quote another verse that has “come down” doesn’t give meaning, it shows you found another verse that says the same thing (John 6 is your jackpot 🙂 ). Explain what it means to “come down from heaven” to be “from heaven.”

    Is to “come down” to p…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @ Proclaimer,

    Can’t say that I deflect and veer off course onto another topic as what happened with the “my Father, your Father”, “my God, your God” discussion when it moved to “going to”/ascending to” after I posted scripture confirming the father and God of Jesus is the same father and God to us.

    Now for two of you to use my line to poke at me…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @ Berean,

    Do you see how you aren’t explaining what “come down from heaven” means? To simply quote another verse that has “come down” doesn’t give meaning, it shows you found another verse that says the same thing (John 6 is your jackpot 🙂 ). Explain what it means to “come down from heaven” to be “from heaven.”

    Is to “come down” to pass through…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Funny what happens when people who are shown their thinking is incorrect; they start looking for other things to argue about, all the while ignoring the truth that just slapped them in the face.

    Philippians 2:6-11

    5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

    6 Who, being in very nature God,
        did not cons…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Gene asked a great question, “WHEN are you going to start putting things written in our scriptures TOGETHER?”

    Not sure what the question was. But when I put scriptures together you get this.

    He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, came down from heaven, came in the flesh, humbled himself, lived as one of us, was obedient to God, died for…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @ Jodi

    You

    There is NO Son of God going back to his previous glory….

    Me
    WRONG!
    Jesus said:

    And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee👉 before the world was.(John 17:5)

    AND

    1) I came forth from

    the Father,( HEAVEN)

    👇

    2) and am come into the world:

    again,

    3) I leave the world, and go to…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @ desire Truth

    You have yet to answer what it means to “come down”, is Jesus “coming down” the same as manna “coming down” from heaven?

    me

    Ah good?

    “come down” from Heaven
    this is to be taken
    👉literally.👈
    Jesus came out of the bosom of the Father WHO IS IN THE HEAVEN (literal) and he came into this world.(literal)
    as he says in John 16:28…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Proclaimer,

    Gene asked a great question, “WHEN are you going to start putting things written in our scriptures TOGETHER?”

    John 17:114 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest…[Read more]

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