@proclaimer

You: Shame on you. You will get what you deserve because you respect not the truth and the facts.

Me: You are a liar and a hypocrite.

@desiretruth

You: Are you really going to say they new scripture better than someone who is educated in that field today?

Me: Yes, because the Apostles were full of the Holy Spirit. 🔥🔥🔥

Desire Truth…….you are making some good points brother ,  yes Jacob is call a servant of God, and by extension “Israel”. And Israel certainly did suffer , but not for others , but because of their own sins. We can say Jacob was indeed a servant of God, but can we say the nation of Israel was? Scripture shows Israel did not serve God,  and was c…[Read more]

Hi desiretruth,

I am  Christian, and as a Christian, I must respect every word by Jesus, or else ON MY LAST DAY ON EARTH, ON MY DEATH IN THE FLESH!!!

GOD KNOWS WHEN, BY IGNORING JESUS,

 BE JUDGED PRECISELY BY THE SAME 
“WORD” MADE FLESH, JESUS,
THE ONLY JUDGE FOR THE HUMAN RACE!

Well clear and asserted by Jesus:

John12:48 He that de…[Read more]

@Gene,

The basic definition of “our” is to show possession of or a belonging to and is used as a plural…going simple. So to say “our Father” simply means this “father” isn’t reserved to an individual, but belongs to all and is everyone’s “father.”

Now let’s take a look at Isa 53:1; “Who has believed our message?” Who is this “our” speaking? T…[Read more]

BTW, the fact that you cannot even put forward one argument that you feel hasn’t been debunked proves that you know nothing about the subject of our planet. Science and truth mean little to you it appears.

Unless you are in the flat earth cult:

Anyone can see that all the flat earth arguments here have been debunked by science.

Anyone can see that there are zero bible verses that state that the earth is flat.

Anyone can see that flat earthers are in a cult and they preach lies.

So am I willing to leave it there and let people decide?

They have…[Read more]

@Gene,

Give me a moment, your questions require a more in depth response and I will get to it.

Thanks for your patience.

@Danny,

You aren’t addressing the question of who is speaking starting in Isa 53:1; you’re running back to what you have been told and copy/pasting scripture without explanation.

Is Jesus the “suffering servant” in Isa 53, NO! I’ll try one more time, start reading in chapter 41 and who is this “servant”? If you don’t do this, we will keep going…[Read more]

@desiretruth

Apostle Peter talking about Jesus: “…by whose stripes ye were healed.” 1 Peter 2:24
Prophet Isaiah: “…and with his stripes we are healed.” Isaiah 53:5

Do you agree with Apostle Peter that Jesus Christ was that Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53?
Remember Peter was a Jew. He knew the Old Testament better than your Orthodox Jews.

@proclaimer

Your debunking arguments aren’t necessarily true.
Everybody can post some google material.
Just to be fair, I did the same.
Let the people decide which position is true or false.
Are you fair enough to leave it at that?

DesireTruth………who do you think the “our” there in 53  represents,  I believe the our is a all inclusive word, meaning the prophet Isaiah and the people of Israel,  and could even represent the whole world.  Kinda of like wen Jesus said pray in this way…….“Our” father, who art in heaven”.   Again that’s an all inclusive statement,  meaning Jesus an…[Read more]

@Carmel,

Are you unable to answer those questions yourself? Take your “spiritual” goggles off, read the text before you, and tell me what is being said. Interpret the chapter in your own words.

Funny how you say I am not ready for the truth; however, when the plain truth is presented, you reject it (who’s not ready?!?!). Reading Isa 53, placi…[Read more]

@dannyd

You don’t get the point. You may have addressed every proof. I don’t know.
But that doesn’t mean that the proofs are debunked.
That was my point.

Give me one then. If you cannot, then you are not a man of your own word.

If you can’t do it, don’t say it.

It’s truly amazing that Flat Earthers will not believe their own eyes but will believe everything that their cult leaders teach them, even lying about what the Bible clearly says: Psalms 50:1 and 113:3 speak of “From the rising of the sun to its going down” Indicating that the sun goes up and down over the horizon and NOT around in a big circle…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: To All……
Jesus did not die for anyone’s personal sin debt.
FIRST AND FOREMOST WHAT KIND OF SINS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

THERE ARE SINS RELATED TO MOSES AND HIS COMMANDMENTS and

SINS RELATED TO JESUS AND HIS COMMANDMENTS!

Luke 12: 10 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but to him that…[Read more]

Hi Desiretruth,

You: I’m starting feel like a broken record, who is speaking in Isa 53:1?

The “our” in verse four is the same “our” in verse one;

who is this “our”?

Me: IT IS OF NO USE THAT YOU ASK QUESTIONS SINCE YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THE TRUTH!

What message was so unbelievable in verse one?

THERE YOU ARE!

ASK YOURSELF WHAT YOU DON’T BEL…[Read more]

@Danny Dabbs

Amen!

@Danny,

I’m starting feel like a broken record, who is speaking in Isa 53:1? The “our” in verse four is the same “our” in verse one; who is this “our”? What message was so unbelievable in verse one?