Hi Jodi,

You: Does Jesus identify himself as the Son of God by the works of God that he is able to do because the Spirit of God abodes in him? 

Yes indeed, such is what we read Jesus proclaiming of himself throughout the gospels. 

Me: No Jodi, that is your corrupted mentality!

JESUS IDENTIFIED HIMSELF AS THE SON OF GOD FROM THE AGE OF T…[Read more]

Berean,  please tell us what the difference of Being someone,  and the “essence” of someone means.   I know it is a false Catholic  “trinitarian” teaching.

Jodi and I and Nick,  have posted scripture after scripture to you over and over and you just hold on to your false teachings, are you so “indoctrinated” in the doctrines of you “Church” , [Read more]

Jodi

You must learn to differentiate between: BEING (THE)GOD AND FATHER
AND THE SON OF GOD THE FATHER WHO IS GOD (IN ESSENCE)

We are human because our parents are human
THUS IN THE BIGINNING THE SON OF GOD WAS GOD(DIVINE, GOD IN ESSENCE..)
BECAUSE HE CAME OUT OF HIM (GOD THE FATHER) IN THE DAYS OF ETERNITY. (Micah 5:2)

For the Father himself…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

First off, thanks for continuing the debate!

You are confused by my last post it seems though, with the point I was trying to make. It’s about how one interprets a passage through who they already believe Jesus to be and if it is a passage where Jesus says “I”, then they are interpreting it through who they believe Jesus believes…[Read more]

Jodi

You

Berean, as you believe Jesus is a pre-existing God from the beginning you read the passage like this, “with the glory I (a God from the beginning) had with thee, before the world was.

I read the passage however like this, “with the glory I (the Son of Man and promised Son of God), had of thee before the world was.

Me

I don’t said…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Hebrews 4: 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again,…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

It’s all about the truth of who Jesus is, moreover who he knows himself to be. 

“with the glory I had with (para, of/with/from) thee, before the world was.

He knows himself to be the promised Son of Man.

He knows himself to be the promised Son of God according to God’s word unto David, and according to God aboding in him, him being…[Read more]

`Carmel…….I also had eternal life, glory and honor, “with God the father”, before the world was.  I have yet to receive it, but it is “prophesied ”  for me.  The exact same thing applied to the “son of man”, Jesus Christ.

Ask me for proof,  and I will give it to you,  right from scriptures.  But you will still deny it, just as you deny the tr…[Read more]

Jodi

You

In John 17 why then would we NOT believe that Jesus would be asking God for the very glory that had been with God, foreordained for Jesus to receive, since even before the world was?

Me

You👉….that Jesus would be asking God for the very glory that had been with God,

Jodi, the text don’t Say that

It Say 👉

O Father, glorify thou me…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Is it possible Berean that our heavenly Father created heaven and earth by reason of and for Jesus Christ?

Me: Isn’t it THE PURE TRUTH that our heavenly Father created heaven and earth by reason of and for 
HIS KINGDOM?
Matthew 6:33 Seek ye therefore FIRST the kingdom of God,
and his justice, and all these things shall be added…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel you said, “No Jodi, JESUS DIDN’T RECEIVE THE SPIRIT AT ALL AT THE RIVER JORDAN!” .
Me: the above is a blatant, “LIE”. 
Gene, I NEVER POSTED ONLY THAT VERSE, BUT A WHOLE POST:
THAT VERES WAS ONLY AN INTRODUCTION TO MY WHOLE POST.

NOW FIRST AND FOREMOST;

I SAID WHAT THE SCRIPTURE CONFIRMS:

THUS, THE  SCRIPTURE NEVER LITER…[Read more]

Gene

Thank you for your answer

As you also know, John baptized with the baptism of repentance all those who came to him and confessed their sins….

Jesus came to John to be baptized with this baptism and the Spirit of the Father communicated to Him that He was indeed His beloved Son ‘in whom I am well pleased.’

It is therefore after the…[Read more]

Hi All,

YHVH promised to crown a man with glory and honor. Jesus was that fulfilled prophecy.

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

A man was foreordained to die on a cross and then receive…[Read more]

Berean you said……>Gene

Can you just tell us why Jesus was baptized by John,
He who was without sin?

For John baptized with the baptism of repentance, and  people confessed their sins….

The texts do not say that Jesus confessed his sins…

So why was he baptized, except to fulfill all righteousness? (Mat.3:15)
What does this mean to you, Gene?

H…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

DIA is translated “by” and “through” and it does not only mean “by means of” it also holds the definition of “BY REASON OF“.

Is it possible Berean that our heavenly Father created heaven and earth <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>by reason of and for Jesus Christ?</span>

Did our heavenly Father create earth for it to be inhabited where…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

Thanks for your reply and reading through my post about Philippians 2.

I have more for you on this that I would like for you to consider. An additional passage to then look at my position again.

Deuteronomy 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and…[Read more]

Jodi
YHVH made heaven and earth ALONE, all BY HIMSELF, but He fulfills His WORD that was WITH Him from the beginning and IS HIM, ETERNAL LIFE, in Jesus and by Jesus, therefore all things were made by reason of him and for him. He brings forth YHVH to be ALL IN ALL, therefore YHVH made in him all things to consist.  
Me

I don’t see this written in…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

It is your interpretation that ” the Word” in John 1:1, 1:14 and Rev 19:13 represents a person, but then in the over 125 other instances it apparently doesn’t, it’s okay in those instances to see “the Word” as representing a person’s actual words, God’s word.

Your proof is extremely week that “the Word” represents a person, it is…[Read more]

Gene

Can you just tell us why Jesus was baptized by John,
He who was without sin?

For John baptized with the baptism of repentance, and  people confessed their sins….

The texts do not say that Jesus confessed his sins…

So why was he baptized, except to fulfill all righteousness? (Mat.3:15)
What does this mean to you, Gene?

How did John’s…[Read more]

Danny,  you are on track brother,  Jesus was indeed the “anointed one”, anointed with the Holy Spirit of God, at the Jordan river, by God the Father himself. After he was baptized in water by John the Baptist.

We are told to be baptized also,  in the name of Jesus,  with water and we also can receive the “Holy Spirit” of God into us to, makin…[Read more]