Hi Desire truth,

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Can’t forget I Cor 15:3-4; still waiting for where he states “according to scripture” the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind, be buried, and raised up on the third day.</span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>The only “scripture” at that time Paul would have referenced would have been the…[Read more]

Gene

Gene

You wrote this to Carmel

“only an idiot can’t figure that out, it doesn’t take some “mysterious religious” BS, like you give us to understand it.”

This is not contempt, what is it then?

Berean……read what I posted to DT, above,  I do not “hate” anyone here or anywhere else , but I do hate some of their teachings,  but never them.  Remember the words of Jesus,  “have salt in yourselves, but have peace also”.

peace and love to you and yours Berean………gene

Desire Truth…….Jesus was the “end” of what the law, was driving at, or why the law was given in the first place. to be more clear, it is not saying Jesus put a end to the  law and commandments  as you suppose it does, but he fulfilled the intent of the Law.
Jesus fulfilled all the requirements of the book of the law and commandments.  But he did…[Read more]

Hi sonofGod and Gene,

Thanks for posting on this topic!

I believe there is a lot involved here and Paul speaks to it in great detail, especially throughout the book of Romans. That which Paul teaches I do find aligns with the sum of all scripture from the beginning of the OT to the end of the NT.

Defining the enmity is a good place to…[Read more]

@Gene

@Carmel

You guys have been going back and forth AND getting quite nasty with each other…so Christ like. Remove your closing statement, because there is nothing peaceful or loving in your replies.

Answer me, how can Jesus be the “root” of Jesse/David/Solomon when both Matthew and Luke claim Jesus was conceived of the spirit? In order for…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: FIRST OF ALL, Jesus was not talking about the “law” in the sense PAUL was, and you misquoted what he was saying, Jesus said……”for “All” the prophets and the Law “prophesied “UNTIL” John”. Jesus was talking about what was written in the, “BOOKS”, of the law and the prophets. HE was not talking about the law in relationship to the “Te…[Read more]

@Jodi,

I did read what you wrote in the original post; I wasn’t going to spend the time commenting on your experience in your youth with the WWCG or derivative. What was given to Moses was for the Jews and not for the rest of the world. Your personal study experiences and what you found are very similar to mine and didn’t feel any commentary was…[Read more]

Gene

It is you who must repent of using such language towards Carmel…
And then what spiritual pride you manifest…
You disgust me Gene….frankly you are not worthy of being called a Christian….You must apologize to Carmel for being so contemptuous…

🙏

Carmel………Read the part of your own post I posted back to you .  As I said,  all the rest is pure garbage.  Anyone with any common sense knows what Jesus meet when he said ……> “I am the root and “OFFSPRING”  “OF” or  (from) David”> only an idiot can’t figure that out, it doesn’t take some “mysterious religious” BS, like you give us to understa…[Read more]

Hi Gene,
You:….the rest is  pure  garbage
Me: UNLESS YOU ARE SPECIFIC,

WHAT YOU SAID IS PURE GARBAGE!

READ HEREUNDER AGAIN PLEASE:

 You: King David is a son and offspring  of Jesse, and of that
“root line”
DEFINE THE ABOVE TERM THROUGH A DICTIONARY PLEASE!

TILL THEN IT IS A PROOF THAT IT’S ONLY

YOUR GARBAGE AND CORRUPTED MENTALITY…[Read more]

Carmel I did read it……”. While Scripture is quite clear that the Messiah certainly is the “Shoot,” the “Branch,” the “Offspring,” or the “Son” of David and Jesse (all terms for a descendant”,

That is the only part of what you wrote that is correct, the rest is  pure  garbage
SATAN IS VERY GOOD AT MIXING THE TRUTH WITH LIES,  something you are ve…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel……Root is the family line,

Me: No Gene, I a not repeating what I said in my last post to you, I am going to simply
emphasize the truth, since you remained SILNCE.
WHICH ONLY PROVES THAT YOU SIMPLY PRODUCED PURE LIES!
which in Jesus’ and David’s case was “Jesse” ,

THUS, THE ROOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LINE, FOR THE SIM…[Read more]

Hi to all

THINK OF HEAVENLY THINGS

These are those who come from the great tribulation; they have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:14)

While in vision, John saw a group of people dressed in white robes… They were in the temple of God. There will be found all those who resort to the merits of…[Read more]

Sonofgod …..yes,  by the way “law” works, no flesh shall be justified before God.  And again…..> “BY GRACE are you saved, and that not of yourself, it is a gift from GOD.

No where does it say we receive the Spirit by obeying the “law”, but just the opposite is said ……> “this only would I learn of you, Receive the Spirit by the Law, or by the h…[Read more]

In that very passage you quoted, the emnity is clearly stated.

“even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;”

The law, though holy, was given to hold the believers in check, so to speak, until grace by Jesus Christ was made available.

We now have the responsibility and privilege to live by grace, not the law of Moses.

In that very passage you quoted, the emnity is clearly stated.

“even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;”

The law, though holy, was given to hold the believers in check, so to speak, until grace by Jesus Christ was made available.

We now have the responsibility and privilege to live by grace, not the law of Moses.

In that very passage you quoted, the emnity is clearly stated.

“even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;”

The law, though holy, was given to hold the believers in check, so to speak, until grace by Jesus Christ was made available.

We now have the responsibility and privilege to live by grace, not the law of Moses.

Desire truth….you brought up several points in you post to Jodi,  each point needs to be addressed  individually. You said, “Jesus said he didn’t come to abolish the law and said heaven and earth would pass away before the law does; it was Paul who said the law ended with Jesus on the cross…are we to believe the “son of God” or the self appoin…[Read more]

Hi Disire truth,

You: it’s time to start investigating what has been said to be truth and verify whether it is or not.

WHY DON’T YOU START, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU ARE NOT READY TO DISCUSS THE NEW TESTAMENT AS TRUTH, MORE SPIRITUAL,  AS MUCH YOU DO THE OT, MORE CARNAL, THE FACT THAT ACCORDING TO PAUL, A GENUINE PHARISEE, IS  MERE DUNG, IN…[Read more]