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- March 19, 2025 at 10:57 pm#947251
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ParticipantWandering stars
March 19, 2025 at 10:57 pm#947250Proclaimer
ParticipantYou’re avoiding the question.
Are you saying that God rested for 24 hours only, then the next 24 hour day, he went back to work, despite people being invited to enter his rest when it is clearly talking about being with God?
Or are you saying that every week God creates and does things and then on Saturday, he does nothing and when we enter his rest it is Saturday.
Or what exactly are you saying about the creation week and then the following weeks thereafter?
Please answer the question without resorting to diversion.
Thanks.
March 16, 2025 at 11:41 pm#947246Proclaimer
ParticipantSo going back to the 6 or 7 days of creation being 24 hours.
Are you saying that God rested for 24 hours only, then the next 24 hour day, he went back to work, despite people being invited to enter his rest when it is clearly talking about being with God?
I mean, your theology appears to suggest that God is not resting, but potentially on every Sabbath Day. So we can only enter his rest on that day?
“Then I heard a voice from heaven say, ‘Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ‘Yes,’ says the Spirit, ‘they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.’”
“The righteous perish, and no one takes it to heart; the devout are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil. Those who walk uprightly enter into peace; they find rest as they lie in death.”
“As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”
March 16, 2025 at 10:04 pm#947245Proclaimer
ParticipantAll the empires were in succession except the second to last one and the last one which are related.
The empire that came after Rome was the Ottoman Empire, which is an Islamic Empire whose religion denies the Son of God meaning it shows itself as AntiChrist.
Further a method of execution is beheading and the only group doing that today is Islam. While it was used by Catholicism, governments, monarchies, and legal systems, the only system today where it is instructed is Islam.
“I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.”
Now understand this. The Middle East is the native area for Christians, but today there are few places where Christians exist in large numbers. What happened to them? What people and religion replaced them? If you know the answer to that, then you will also know that they went through tribulation and still do to this day.
The USA is not part of the Beast and neither was the British Empire. We are more likely in between a period of Islamic empire in the region and perhaps beyond.
“And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.”
March 16, 2025 at 9:51 pm#947244Proclaimer
ParticipantThe Great Sea is a term used in the Old Testament, primarily referring to the Mediterranean Sea (e.g., Numbers 34:6-7, Joshua 1:4, Ezekiel 47:10). However, the Book of Revelation does not explicitly mention the “Great Sea” by name, but could still be referring to it.
Daniel’s visions also involve empires that ruled around the Mediterranean (Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome), many scholars believe that the “great sea” in Daniel 7 is referring to the Mediterranean.
February 18, 2025 at 8:58 pm#947234Proclaimer
ParticipantFebruary 12, 2025 at 11:10 pm#947229Proclaimer
ParticipantTrump and Elon Musk double down on DOGE
The government’s leading disaster relief agency reportedly spent millions on hotels for illegal immigrants just last week, according to Elon Musk, who is leading the Trump administration’s efforts to cut government spending.
February 12, 2025 at 11:09 pm#947228Proclaimer
ParticipantIf you are wrong, then you are essentially rejecting a leader called by God in response to the prayers of the righteous. In doing so, you oppose God’s anointed. God raises up leaders according to what the people deserve, and He answers the prayers of His people.
Furthermore, many end-time doctrines exist, but all the beasts in Revelation and Daniel are linked to the great sea. These empires followed one another in a continuous succession. I become immediately suspicious when interpretations relocate these beasts away from the great sea and apply them to the USA, Russia, China, or other modern nations.
I do not subscribe to your denomination’s end-time doctrines.
February 10, 2025 at 1:46 am#947225Proclaimer
ParticipantI don’t think so as the Bible is predominately talking about the area around the Great Sea, (Mediterranean). But if I had to choose a scripture despite not being sure about it, I would choose the following as the vessel that God uses to protect the Jews in the last days.
“And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.”
Like I said though, I do not hold to or teach that America is in the Bible excluding the fact that the world is in the Bible and is mentioned many times and America is part of the world.
But go ahead and give me your strongest scripture about America?
February 9, 2025 at 10:05 pm#947222Proclaimer
ParticipantYES THE SEVENTH DAY IS 24 HOURS
meaning God only rested for 24 hours,
YES GOD only RESTED 24 HOURS
or do the seven days still continue
There are numerous scriptures that talk about entering HIS rest.
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Doesn’t look like 24 hours to me. Once our labour is over, we enter into HIS rest.
So you cannot enter his rest by your own belief because your doctrine says that it only lasted 24 hours, so you missed out. Whereas, I believe that I will enter God’s rest when my life here is completed. Or I hope to at least.
Perhaps you believe in another rest or multiple rests?
Because God talks about this rest in both the new and old testaments, I guess you beleive in many. Do you know exactly how many rests you believe in?
“Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.”
February 9, 2025 at 9:49 pm#947220Proclaimer
ParticipantIf God called Trump to lead America because his people prayed for wickedness in high places to be exposed, then you are against God’s anointed.
February 9, 2025 at 9:39 pm#947217Proclaimer
ParticipantKim Clement Prophecy 2014
Double Impeachment & The Fury of God
February 7, 2025 at 2:05 pm#947214Proclaimer
ParticipantI will ask the question again in a more clear and concise way.
If the 6 creation days are 24 hours, is the seventh day 24 hours meaning God only rested for 24 hours, or is the seven day still going meaning God is at rest from creation?
Please look at the title of this topic. It is not about the days of the week and the Sabbath as such. It is about the creation days in Genesis.
February 7, 2025 at 1:57 pm#947213Proclaimer
ParticipantI think it is sad that your denomination / cult always sees bad in everything. Sometimes God uses a man like King Cyrus. It’s pretty simple and not complicated at all. I doubt Trump is going to anything about Sunday or any other day of the week for that matter.
The thing I have noticed about adherence to any denomination is that the subjects often have no direct relationship with God, but a relationship with the denomination instead. This is evident in that such people cannot think for leventes.
Even if you believe the who mark of the beast sabbath thing, you should talk about it yourself because you should have a relationship with God himself and be able to be led by his Spirit and speak his words through your own mouth and likewise, type such things from what God is speaking to you about.
Without the power of God, you only have tradition.
Making void the word of God for your tradition, which you have handed down.
February 4, 2025 at 8:48 pm#947210Proclaimer
ParticipantExodus 20:11
“For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”So you argue that the six days were 24 hours but not the seventh day then.
That is fine. But you are picking and choosing to some degree right?
February 3, 2025 at 12:45 pm#947207Proclaimer
ParticipantIt’s On
February 3, 2025 at 9:50 am#947206Proclaimer
ParticipantIf we were still in the seventh day, the day on which God rested, then that would mean that God is really really tired of having made heaven and earth. !!!!!!?????
I think rest just means cease and to enjoy the fruits of his labour.
“For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.”
But the point is really this, that the seventh day is not 24 hours, then why are the other days 24 hours? They are not obviously.
February 3, 2025 at 2:57 am#947203Proclaimer
ParticipantYou conveniently avoided the question. Here it is again?
Are we still in the seventh day or did that only last 24 hours?
February 2, 2025 at 10:27 pm#947201Proclaimer
ParticipantI wonder if Mikeboll believes that the devil used a torch and faked the 24 hour Sun?
February 2, 2025 at 10:25 pm#947200Proclaimer
ParticipantIs it still the seventh day or did that only last 24 hours?
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