Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 25 2012,04:23)Are you talking to me, or T8.No.IMO you have been reasonable and are able to hold a good conversation and it would be good to know more about what you think, but is hard sometimes among all the other stuff.

What to do? Here is one idea.I could start a new Board/Forums which is invite only. Still under Heaven Net, but not part of this one, but is for those who are truth seekers, love God, and are not likely to go off the rails. I think we could share some great things in the right company if we didn't spend so much time refuting false teachers, nutty…[Read more]

I guess if people become believers and show no respect for the sacredness of doctrine and truth and teach their own imaginations and not what comes from the Spirit, then there comes a time when they become “nutters”.This happens so that all can see to not follow them because God will judge false teachers just as he does false prophets and false apostles.

Oh Ed J, you have really done it now. How can anyone ever take you serious again. Although I don't know of anyone here that is influenced by what you teach so 'again' might not be the right word.It seems to be that if a person doesn't stay on the straight and narrow with their teaching, they will err into the most ridiculous doctrines ever…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2012,01:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 13 2012,09:41)Discussing the Trinity Doctrine …still results in heated arguments.  And it seems no one ever adjusts their beliefs in the end.  Hi Mike,I'm still working on helping both sides to see clearer. (Link)“My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew,  …[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2012,02:12)“The Son's” name is: “Jesus””The Father's” name is: “JEHOVAH””The HolySpirit's” name is: “The Word”And yet the Sword of that Spirit is the Word of God.So is the Spirit the Word or the sword of that Spirit the Word.I guess you could say both, but I would wonder why mention the sword at all then. I guess you don't…[Read more]

If we believe in God then we have a covenant with him so when we sin, he is just and faithful to forgive our sins.

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2012,11:52)“ON THE OTHER HAND T8 AND MIKE AND ME ARE VERY CLOSE TO UNDERSTAND IN A SAME WAY, WHY IS THAT”?–Terr, Page 34, “Messengers of God” thread.(1 Corinthians 1:10) “Now I exhort YOU, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YOU should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among…[Read more]

david, we are to be united in truth, not a denomination with their own creed written by man and from man.So this is what we are striving for. To know the truth in all things and scripture as our Guide and hopefully in the right spirit which is God's Spirit.Of course there are things that wouldn't make an ounce of difference if you differed such as…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,18:30)I just don't find the slightest bit of credible evidence for their being demons connected to the idea of the ouija board. There are so many things not logical about it. And further, it has been debunked by magicians and scientists for quite some time. Anyone can debunk it themself. It's an easy…[Read more]

david, I think this conversation is getting to time consuming. I usually draw the line when that happens. I will answer a few more of your questions. If you check my posts I have given you quite a lot of detail and more than enough for you to process. It would be more interesting to me if the conversation perhaps took a turn toward demon activity…[Read more]

1 Corinthians 1018 Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? 19 Do I mean then that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21 You cannot drink…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,15:39)I have only said that ouija boards do not work by spirits. Magicians as a group hate mediums, spiritits, diviners, sorcerers and anyone who is full of fraud in this respect. I can keep,saying that computers are demonized just as long as you can say ouija boards are. The scripture above doesn't mention computers…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,15:21)T8,How high did the glass go?  (When David Blaine appeared to levitate off the ground it was 1 inch, but people later recalled it being several inches or a foot).  Whose board was it?Who was the other person using it?We're there alcohol or drugs involved?What kind of glass?  What material?  How heavy?What were you…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,13:21)Quote Tricks do not explain everythingNever said they did.  But ouija board, is explained by the ideomotor effect, memory, the love of stories, hit and miss confirmation bias, stooges, etc.david, a ouija board is just a piece of plastic, cardboard, or some other material.Calling up spirits or the dead is…[Read more]

Hey david. Yes I am fully aware that tricks and cons are all about distractions and that in this case that woman would likely think it was miraculous. But can you use this as evidence to disprove all things. No. It only shows how a person gives much higher regard to something that is not deserving when you factor in all the facts.Tricks do not…[Read more]

Okay back to the trick.I noticed that he said that she had free will, but he suggests a colour and she has red hair.He then suggest hearts or diamonds. Maybe because she wasn't wearing diamonds, statistically speaking you will choose hearts. Or maybe people choose hearts most of the time anyway. I would.He then asks for a number and says between 1…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2012,21:18)What I'm saying is: the board does not work by spirits.  Spirits aren't fooled by blindfolds.David, I think that when you call up spirits or talk to evil spirits it can be more than a mental or self delusional thing. You are doing something that is forbidden by God.Think about praying to God and how we are…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2012,21:08)Agreed.  Two different things.  I get frustrated when people confuse the two, something I have dealt with in one way or another since I was 8.I see and I hear you.