Quote (jb2u @ Mar. 28 2013,09:07)Oh Lightenup (please read all of my words)…”the gods that I believe exist” as you say are the same ones that God claims exists.Psalm 82 God refers to judges as “gods.”1 Cor 8:5 God states “there be gods many, and lords many.”But we are talking about a belief in a trinity. Let's start at Deut 6:4God states “Hear,…[Read more]

Welcome jb2u.

Quote (Stu @ Mar. 28 2013,00:44)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 27 2013,18:18)Have you guys noticed how iPhones have evolved lately? They are still looking highly competitive in the eco-system they exist in.Stu, what say you? Do you agree that the evolution of the iPhone has been outstanding?I wouldn't know.  Mine's Android.StuartYes Android too has evolved…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2013,05:26)The Roots sent the Shoot and yet the Shoot is the continuation of one of the Roots, therefore one of the Roots and the Shoot are the same person as Jesus says that He is the Root and Offspring of David. The first Root sent the second Root to continue it's life in a Shoot and as a Shoot as well as remaining the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2013,05:26)Also,”For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.”Notice the word 'as' it shows that in the similar way that the Father has life, the Son does also.Another fail Kathi.You completely and conveniently ignored that the Father GRANTED the son to have life in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2013,05:26)Jesus is not an attribute of God, Jesus has the fullness of God in Him.Are you talking to yourself here.I believe Jesus is a being, not part of God as you do.He was begotten by God and even Jesus said, “if God was your Father, you would believe that I came from God”.First you do not believe that God is your…[Read more]

Kathi, your post has failed in multiple ways. I will explain in following posts.

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,16:43)Ok, now let's see if you break any of the above.You believe that the LORD (YHVH) your God is only the Father. You also believe that Jesus is another god…a lessor god as the Son of God.I believe that the LORD my God is the Father, Son with their Holy Spirit.We are to worship no other god. You worship the…[Read more]

Number 2316Transliteration:theos {theh'-os}Word Origin:of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with 3588) the supreme DivinityTDNT:3:65,322Part of Speech:noun masculineUsage in the KJV:God 1320, god 13, godly 3, God-ward 4214 2, misc 5Total: 1343Definition:a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinitiesthe Godhead, trinityGod the…[Read more]

Plenty of scholars disagree. Even many Trinitarian scholars agree that the 'theos' without the article in John 1:1c is qualitative.You have this habit of denying anything that goes against your theology. Whereas, at least I accept that there are other views and that many verses can be altered depending on placing of the commas and brackets.So for…[Read more]

Mixing the grout now Stu.

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,19:05)Hi Journey42, 1) Angelic half-breeds?2) Adams offspring?3) Cain's offspring?I'm leaning towards “2” and/or “3”, but not “1”.Um shouldn't you know? After all you pre-existed as Gabriel or someone else didn't you?

What was fulfilled on “Pentecost”?That huge wad of quoted posts in quoted posts?

Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 27 2013,14:39)I did think it was in reference to Jesus but after reading proverbs I differently don’t think this now.Here are some problems I have found so far1: Wisdom is defined as a female 2: Wisdom isn’t given a name3: The opposite too Wisdom is Folly which is also talked about in proverbs 4: Folly is also identified as…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2013,22:16)Hi Daniel,Most of the modern English translations were translated from corrupt Greek text; how will that help?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOh man. Ed J, when I hear statements like this, I start to think of the merits of having a Forum called 'Crackpots Anonymous'.Seriously, all I…[Read more]

“About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray.”One Man but 3 persons perhaps? More food for thought.”The two Witnesses.”One Witness, 2 persons? A Binity?The mystery deepens.

Oh why not throw one in there and break up the one person discussion.Here we have a compounded unity of three. A classic Trinity. A new Trinity. A new religion is born perhaps?”I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.”

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2013,19:23)Did that 'Word' always exist within God before it was brought forth to be with Him? Are God's attributes as eternal as He is?Was there ever a time when God lacked one or two or more of His attributes according to you?Wow, those are actually good questions.God's attributes have always been part of his character…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2013,19:17)You keep saying that you are going to have the nature of a god like Jesus someday but now you say you didn't pre-exist your flesh so tell me how are you going to be like the theos who pre-existed His flesh if you didn't pre-exist your flesh.He was the first. The prototype son. Not sure what number I am, but…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Mar. 27 2013,18:47)Huh?  Are you drunk, or do you just write that way naturally?StuartNot drunk. You are stalling.