@Wakeup

See the Visual and Text tabs to the right?

You can post code in the Text tab but not the Visual one.

Visual is really good at scraping a web page by copying and pasting directly from the page.

Try out a random web page and copy the text then paste into a post.

See example here and have a go…[Read more]

This video is a little bit tacky, but the message is loud and clear. It is based on Walid Shoebat’s view of the Mark of the Beast.

You have validated my point.

your two questions are not clear and so present multi answers,

Does this not prove to you that ‘begotten’ and ‘created’ do not entirely mean the same thing?

So if it is not clear that you can just think of ‘begotten’ as ‘created’ then you agree with my point. They are different words with different meanings. Like…[Read more]

Good one Nadel. Do not lose heart. Although it might seem like you are on your own, remember that many people of God felt the same way in the time and place they lived. Be encouraged because you are coming to a realization that not many ever contemplate.

@terraricca @mikeboll64

Here are two questions I would like you guys to answer. Make it simple with a yes and a no. Should take less than 30 seconds to answer.

1) Is Jesus the only begotten?

2) Is Jesus the only created?

Are your answers different. If so, my point is valid. I await your two answers.

@mikeboll64

Eve is called in scripture “the mother of all living”, right? (Gen 3:20) So let’s try it this way:

All human beings came into existence through Eve. Without her, not one human being came into existence.

Is it a true statement, based on the SCRIPTURE Gen 3:20? Absolutely.

But does it mean that Eve herself DIDN’T come into existen…

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Hi Mike.

Did we engage in a setup debate regarding Jesus being begotten vs created? If so, do you know where it is?

1) I don’t hate the bible, but I don’t like it’s petrification, false sacredness and the false claim that God wrote it as well as the human accusations against God made in parts of it.

You don’t hate the bible BUT…

Enough said.

terraricca

when it says all humans have been created through Adam this is true but this is from ADAM and beyond ,so not including Adam

But if it said that the definition of a man was that who was created through Adam and that all who were not created through Adam are not man, then by that definition, Adam would not be a man.

Similarly, if all…[Read more]

I surrendered my life to God 29+ years ago. I seek his word (which is living) and do his will which is found by seeking in prayer and in spirit. The problem with bible worshipers is that they have a relationship with a book as a substitute for trusting God.

If anything, you have a relationship with a book Colter. Most of us here are not promoting…[Read more]

The main reason people do not believe in God is because they don’t want to . God is not part of their fantasy, so they accept a fable that the prefer.

Same goes for God’s revelation and word to man. He spoke through the Prophets and then through the son. This does not fit with many fantasies, delusions, and myths of men, so they just choose to…[Read more]

Also, you absolutely do not believe the following:

Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 

You basically say that Jesus is excluded by reason of common sense. The problem is that it doesn’t mention the exclusion you speak of, and worse, it then makes an even bigger statement making your view all the…[Read more]

@mikeboll64

I read your last post. This is my reply to that.

1. The word ‘create’ in scripture is used of ‘man’. Where is that same word used of the ‘Word’ or ‘Jesus’ before coming in the flesh?
2. Yes we are begotten of God, this is the hope that we have. But that doesn’t negate that we were created or made by God through his Word etc. It just…

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@GeneBalthrop

T8…….Jesus is said to be the SECOND Adam , Seeing some say, He Created Adam. Did he create himself, as another ADAM also?, If ALL things were created BY him and For him , then that would also have to include the second Adam also, after all, ALL means ALL, right? I am not saying you believe that , because I don’t think you do, b…

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