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Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
You cannot both believe that God gave Jesus God’s Spirit and believe Jesus is God. The two are in conflict and so it is like believing you live by the Spirit at the same time you live the flesh.
Correct. But you can believe that the Divine gave or shares divine nature. You can believe that from the one Spirit are all spirits. You can believe t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
You cannot both believe that God gave Jesus God’s Spirit and believe Jesus is God. The two are in conflict and so it is like believing you live by the Spirit at the same time you live the flesh.
Correct. But you can believe that the Divine gave or shares divine nature. You can believe that from the one Spirit are all spirits. You can believe t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
kerwin, I have never taught that Jesus is an angelic being. Whether he is or not, I have not taught that.
What I teach is that he existed in the form of God, and then came in the flesh, and is now in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.
What was he like before he came in the flesh I am not exactly sure. Was he a spirit like an…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
God does not tell us when the Spirit is speaking through Jesus.
You need to become spiritually aware.
Can you tell?
lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
Is it true that you believe that Jesus was an angelic being dressed in flesh?
If not can you clarify what you believe .
This is a new teaching .
Show me where I have taught that, and I will explain what I have written. You obviously misunderstand. Otherwise speculating that I believe that Jesus was an angel (Cherub/Seraph/etc) is not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
Is it true that you believe that Jesus was an angelic being dressed in flesh?
If not can you clarify what you believe .
This is a new teaching .
Show me where I have taught that, and I will explain what I have written. You obviously misunderstand. Otherwise speculating that I believe that Jesus was an angel (Cherub/Seraph/etc) is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
Is it true that you believe that Jesus was an angelic being dressed in flesh?
If not can you clarify what you believe .
This is a new teaching .
Show me where I have taught that, and I will explain what I have written. You obviously misunderstand. Otherwise speculating that I believe that Jesus was an angel (Cherub/Seraph/etc) is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
@DannyDabbs
Hi @ all!
The Gnostic occultists believed that Jesus was not the Christ, but Christ came down on him at his baptism.
The Bible doesn’t say that Jesus came in the flesh and later became the Christ.
1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.Jesus is…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
@Danny Dabbs
Hi @ all!
The Gnostic occultists believed that Jesus was not the Christ, but Christ came down on him at his baptism.
The Bible doesn’t say that Jesus came in the flesh and later became the Christ.
1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.Jesus is…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi ED,
The most popular understandings are to say that Jesus
Is God
Is an angelic being
Is a pre existent man
But we know none of them are true.
He is a man conceived in Mary and anointed by God as the prophets were but more so who was greatly used by God and we can follow him.
You missed out, the Word that was with God became flesh.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 4 months ago
You can deny Jesus’s origins all you like guys, but it doesn’t wash with me. He existed in the form of God then came in the flesh as one of us so we can be one of him.
Gene, you are always going on about that he is no different to us and is one of us and anything else is divisive. But the truth of the matter is he came in flesh and one day we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Islamic Immigration in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 10 years, 4 months ago
Anyone supposedly speaking under the authority of Jesus Christ can do the same thing (be transformed into an angel of light, and preach another gospel). IMO, the biggest threat to a Christian’s faith are Christians themselves. Muslims are not.
Islam has almost made Christians extinct in large swathes of the Middle East. If it say spread to Eu…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Not true Nick. Rather, Christ Jesus is not mentioned in the part of I quoted. I quoted it exactly as it is written in that translation.
But yes, if I go back one more verse we see it is referring to Christ Jesus.
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Nick, perhaps you didn’t realize. Jesus is the Christ. Most people think…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
You misquote scriptures such as Phil 2.
Actually I quote it. I believe it the way it is written and teach it that way too.
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
You misquote scriptures such as Phil 2.
Actually I quote it. I believe it the way it is written and teach it that way too.
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
You misquote scriptures such as Phil 2.
Actually I quote it. I believe it the way it is written.
In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothi…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
hi t8,
It is outstanding?
Jn 3.36
He who believes in the Son has eternal life, but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him
Yes I think so. You do not seem to believe that the disobedient will not see life. They will not be alive. But yes the wrath of God abides with them. That wrath ends with…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
hi t8,
It is outstanding?
Jn 3.36
He who believes in the Son has eternal life, but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him
Yes I think so. You do not seem to believe that the disobedient will not see life. They will not be alive. But yes the wrath of God abides with them. That wrath ends with…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
Let your words mirror scripture.
Teach what resonates with scriptural truth.
Expressing your own ideas is only spiritual when this is so.
Jesus said: “Before Abraham, I am”. Your view about Jesus whole existence doesn’t match Jesus words here. You seem to teach your own idea with this subject.
I am yet to be convinced that your teaching…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
Is it OK to say JESUS where scripture says JESUS CHRIST?
Another example of a non-issue.
I have not said anything that resembles this.
I teach from scripture alone.
Jesus said: “Before Abraham, I am”.
‘Jesus said’ in this case. Who am I to argue with scripture.
No need to ask me if it is okay. I am just quoting scripture as it is.
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