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Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
Before he emptied himself and came in the flesh according to the text.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 41:18 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
It is you who judges as if you know better.
But you offer a religion of human origin.
Nick, if the scriptures about Jesus origins are a religion of human origin only, then we have no hope in Jesus Christ. Human origin would tend to put Jesus as a man like us only. The Pharisees did not have trouble with Jesus being a man, but with the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
Nick, Jesus wasn’t just a man. He became a man. He existed in the form of God and obviously did not have the name Jesus till he was born as a man.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
So a being with no flesh existed in heaven and was known as Jesus Christ though that name had yet to be given?
Then , by your definition by taking on flesh he became like us, a man.
Far fetched fantasy
He existed in the form of God, emptied himself and came in the flesh. As a man, he was like us and was tempted like us and lived like us.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
You are mixing the ideas from a few passages.
Philippians 2:5-7 or 8 is speaking the mind that is in Jesus Christ.
kerwin you are wrong with this and there is no problem mixing scriptures or truth, so long as the context is preserved. It is true for example that God is love. It is also true that God is light. If I mix that and say that God is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
You are mixing the ideas from a few passages.
Philippians 2:5-7 or 8 is speaking the mind that is in Jesus Christ.
kerwin you are wrong with this.
We are told to have the same attitude as Jesus Christ.
Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi T8,
Yes that is all true of the Spirit of Christ .
Did you think it was about the man?
Nick, coming in the flesh is what qualifies him as becoming a man.
And who came in the flesh? It was Jesus Christ, not just a man called Jesus, but Jesus the annointed.
Deny that blatantly or subtly makes no difference, it is still a denial.
Did it…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 41:18 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
It is you who judges as if you know better.
But you offer a religion of human origin.
I do not judge you Nick by my own standard. This scripture does. If not, explain why. I am not interested in winning this argument, rather I wish the best for you Nick. If you can explain how your teaching agrees with 1 John 4:2 and it is a fair…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 41:18 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Where have I said that Jesus Christ is not the anointed one of God?
Nick, you teach that Jesus was not the Christ, until he was called Jesus Christ by reason of his baptism. In other words Jesus of Nazareth was not the Christ, but a vessel awaiting the anointing. A mere flesh man with no history to speak of accept ancestral.
Jesus to you is a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
Yes those who had the Holy Spirit could recognise the Christ from birth.
Jesus was born at Bethlehem and reborn from above at the Jordan of the Holy Spirit.
Surely you know this because he said you must be born again of water and the Spirit and we follow him.
I don’t think we should make Jesus experience match ours. Rather he is greater…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Jesus Christ was born as a baby like us. We cannot deny him as Christ at any point.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Yes Terr. The Antichrist spirit gives itself away by denying that Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
Yes those who had the Holy Spirit could recognise the Christ from birth.
Jesus was born at Bethlehem and reborn from above at the Jordan of the Holy Spirit.
Surely you know this because he said you must be born again of water and the Spirit and we follow him.
I don’t think we should make Jesus experience match ours. Rather he is greater…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
Yes those who had the Holy Spirit could recognise the Christ from birth.
Jesus was born at Bethlehem and reborn from above at the Jordan of the Holy Spirit.
Surely you know this because he said you must be born again of water and the Spirit and we follow him.
I don’t think we should Jesus experience to match ours. Rather he is greater…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
You misquote me.
Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God.
Since he was anointed at the Jordan with the Holy Spirit that is when he became the anointed one.
Before that he was the Christ only prophetically.
Thanks for clarifying.
So according to you, Jesus was not the actual Christ, until his baptism. That still denies that Jesus…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
You misquote me.
Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God.
Since he was anointed at the Jordan with the Holy Spirit that is when he became the anointed one.
Before that he was the Christ only prophetically.
Thanks for clarifying.
So according to you, Jesus was not the actual Christ, until his baptism. That still denies that Jesus…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 4 months ago
He existed in the form of God, emptied himself and came in the flesh and is now in the glory that he had with the Father before the cosmos..
Proclaimer replied to the topic Islamic Immigration in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 10 years, 4 months ago
Not that simple Terr. If parts of Europe become predominately Muslim, then they could take over with population alone. Muammar Gaddafi said the following quote, way before Europe became flooded with Muslim refugees.
We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, wi…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Islamic Immigration in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 10 years, 4 months ago
Not that simple Terr. If parts of Europe become predominately Muslim, then they could take over with population alone. Muammar Gaddafi said the following quote, way before Europe became flooded with Muslim refugees.
We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, wi…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 4 months ago
Although he existed in the form of God, he emptied himself and came in the flesh.
We read elsewhere that the Word that was with God became flesh and we beheld his glory as the son of God.
Then we read that he is called the Word of God and that he came from Heaven.
He is the firstborn of all creation and the exact image of God.
While in the…[Read more]
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