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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    I judge teaching with scripture. I test doctrines with scripture.

    I do not judge people by saying they do not have the Spirit. Do you do that?

    You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to…[Read more]

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    Hi t8,

    Should you patronise others?

    Is you own position that secure?

    Do you patronise others Nick?

    Yes/No?

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    Hi t8,

    Jesus existed in the form of God?

    That is not in scripture.

    Are you sure about that Nick?

    KJ21
    who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God,

    ASV
    who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,

    BRG
    Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery…[Read more]

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    You suggest others need to love while you indulge in judgement?

    The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

    In other words, instead of taking responsibility, she tried to pass it on.

    Nick, those who are born of the spirit will love. It makes no difference if others do not love. This is applicable to all of us individually. We need to…[Read more]

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    I do not judge people. I judge what people teach and use scripture to do it. I will continue to do this. I do not say a man has not the Spirit like some do here or that a man is damned. I do not pass judgement, that is up to God. I judge the teachings and the spirit. If that makes you uncomfortable, then that is not my fault because I have never…[Read more]

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    Hi t8,

    So which scriptures do you reject.

    I do not reject any scripture, but I admit to not understanding everything.

    You show me a scripture that I reject and I will show you otherwise.

    I believe for example that the Maggi came to see the Christ and they saw him.

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    It is not the believer that is in Jesus and God but the Holy Spirit they have been given by God through faith in Jesus Christ.

    A bit confused. Yes the Believer is one with God because his spirit is one with God’s Spirit. We are connected by our spirits. I suppose this is what you are tying to say. If so, then I agree.

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    Hi t8,

    Those in Christ are one with him as he is with the Father.

    No division.

    Yes. But we are not the Holy Spirit, yet somehow the Father and the Son are? I disagree with LU’s and your view on this.

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    Again you make a false claim about me. You say:

    From your position of self appointed expert you have again misjudged the situation.
    Christ means the anointed one.
    He was anointed at the Jordan.

    But I already know what Christ means, but as I have pointed out. Men came to see Jesus Christ when he was a baby. They didn’t come to see a mere human…[Read more]

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    Again you make a false claim about me. You say:

    From your position of self appointed expert you have again misjudged the situation.
    Christ means the anointed one.
    He was anointed at the Jordan.

    But I already know what Christ means, but as I have pointed out. Men came to see Jesus Christ the Lord when he was a baby. They didn’t come to see a mere…[Read more]

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    Again you make a false claim about me. You say:

    From your position of self appointed expert you have again misjudged the situation.
    Christ means the anointed one.
    He was anointed at the Jordan.

    But I already know what Christ means, but as I have pointed out. Men came to see Jesus Christ the Lord when he was a baby. They didn’t come to see a mere…[Read more]

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    Again you make a false claim about me. You say:

    From your position of self appointed expert you have again misjudged the situation.
    Christ means the anointed one.
    He was anointed at the Jordan.

    But I already know what Christ means, but as I have pointed out. Men came to so Jesus Christ the Lord when he was a baby. He was born Jesus Christ. I…[Read more]

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    Thanks for sharing your testimony Mikeangel. No one can take your testimony away.

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    Rabbi Jonathan Cahn talks about Pergamon in Turkey where a “gigantic” altar of Zeus was placed. In the book of Revelation it speaks about Pergamon and this altar.

    Revelation 2:12-14
    “And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this: ‘I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold…[Read more]

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    Rabbi Jonathan Cahn talks about Pergamon in Turkey where a “gigantic” altar of Zeus was placed. In the book of Revelation it speaks about Pergamon and this altar.

    Revelation 2:12-14
    “And to the angel of the

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    Not all who read the Bible believe that Jesus of Nazareth is God’s sent messiah to mankind. Many Jews who read the Torah for example do not believe that he is the one prophesied about in the books such as Isaiah

    https://youtu.be/QSdydtEiwrU

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    Sounds like a threat Nick. lol.

    Love is kind and those who love are born of God. You can infer all day that you are the only one with the Spirit here, but we will believe you have that Spirit when we see the required fruit.

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    Hi T8,

    Let me state it for you again.

    Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    But you demand that I believe he was anointed prior to birth and that would deny what is written about the Jordan.

    So kindly do not try to show me a liar and a deceiver.

    Emphasis mine.

    Yes what you have stated in the quote is correct: “Jesus is the Christ,…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    Let me state it for you again.

    Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    But you demand that I believe he was anointed prior to birth and that would deny what is written about the Jordan.

    So kindly do not try to show me a liar and a deceiver.

    Emphasis mine.

    Yes what you have stated here is correct”Jesus is the Christ, the Son of…[Read more]

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    That is why Jesus said they are one.
    That is how they come to those that believe.
    It is the unity of faith and Spirit.

    And the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son

    I do not agree with this view. Jesus wants to include us too, and your view seems obviously wrong when we are included. There is nothing in scripture that hints that we…[Read more]

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