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    You taught that the anointing at the Jordan was just some sort of public revelation of a previous event did you not?

    I taught the following because it is written:

    John testified saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. “I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me,…[Read more]

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    You taught that the anointing at the Jordan was just some sort of public revelation of a previous event did you not?

    Trust you to think that Nick. This again is absolutely false. I taught the following because it is written:

    John testified saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. “I did not…[Read more]

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    If you teach that Jesus was born anointed when does scripture show this and what powers did the infant demonstrate?

    Listen carefully Nick. I believe that when he came in the flesh, he was Jesus Christ. He was born Jesus Christ and recognised as such. You cannot condemn what I am saying can you?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Listen carefully Nick. I believe that he was born the Christ. Jesus is the Christ.

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    Acknowledge the power of the Spirit.

    How is believing that Jesus Christ came in the flesh a denial of the power of the Spirit. It is not. We should not rely on our own understanding.

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    But you seem to deny the power of God in him despite the very verse you quote.

    Not sure what you mean Nick, but you realise that these continuous accusations are going to have to stop. These forums are moderated to stop unnecessary conflicts. It is a pity that I even have to do that, but not all come here for the best reasons. Please stick to the…[Read more]

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    Hi t8,

    Jesus existed in the form of God?

    That is not in scripture.,

    Nick, you are the one who wrote that, but yes, Jesus is the Christ and was born the Christ.

    Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Likewise if I say Jesus, then you should assume son of God too, even if I did not mention that specific thing at the time.

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    kewin, I am not angry and hateful. I am defending Nick’s accusations against me, something you do yourself.

    I have no problem giving an answer to what I believe. But I also need to try and rest accusations against myself and others in these forums. There is a process of doing that here and that process is enacted.

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    Nick, I will not give up judging teachings. Sorry, but that is not going to happen. Veiling it as me judging people, will not sway me either. Also, you do not win a debate by having the last word. It is in the truth that a person speaks that matters, not veiled or blatant accusations against people. The Pharisees attacked Jesus character when they…[Read more]

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    Hi t8,

    Yes they saw the prophesied Christ.

    There are no alternative options.

    He had been chosen by God.

    Correct. What do you have to say about these scriptures?

    Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.

    This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Perhaps I could ask a question to you then.

    Do you love Nick? Love is kind.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick, since most of you questions are negative, you can assume I answer no to them from now on. This might save a lot of useless questions in the future.

    We should focus on the important stuff such as believing that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Jesus was born the Christ, not at John’s baptism, but when he was born as a baby in a manger.

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    Read Mathew’s account and read it slowly. You are calling him a liar?

    This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.

    Is Mathew’s account correct or not? Please answer. If you say no, then fine, you are…

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    Read Mathew’s account and read it slowly. You are calling him a liar?

    This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.

    Is Mathew’s account correct or not? Please answer. If you say no, then fine, you are…

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    Nick, what you said in your last post is irrelevant as you suggest that I do not know this.

    It is like me saying: Nick, you need to acknowledge that Jesus is the son of God.

    If I said that, it would suggest strongly that I thought you were denying it.

    So why do you make these kinds of posts to people, when it is clear that they are not against…[Read more]

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    Nick. if Jesus was the Christ, then know that Jesus was born a baby and was the Christ then and recognised as such.

    If Jesus was not the Christ when he came in the flesh, then that is tantamount to saying that Jesus was not the Christ, but Jesus Christ is the Christ.

    (For the purposes of the reader, Nick was teaching in these forums that Jesus…[Read more]

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    Nick. if Jesus was the Christ, then know that Jesus was born a baby and was the Christ then and recognised as such.

    If Jesus was not the Christ when he came in the flesh, then that is tantamount to saying that Jesus was not the Christ, but Jesus Christ is the Christ.

    Now let the scripture rebuke and correct:

    By this you know the Spirit of God:…[Read more]

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    T8….THE CHRISTO’S WAS NEVER BORN, THE ANOINTING SPIRIT ALWAYS EXISTED

    Irrelevant to the point Gene.

    Jesus Christ was born in a manger and men came and honoured this baby as the Christ sent by God. Would you have done the same?

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    Hi t8,

    You did not understand.

    Perhaps now you do?

    Yes I understand that you were saying that he was not the Christ at that stage in his life. But have you changed your mind on this for sure?  Was he born the Christ? Elsewhere I have read that you say he became the Christ at the baptism of John meaning that he could not have been the Christ at…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    I judge teaching with scripture. I test doctrines with scripture. I separate people from what they teach and judge their teaching.

    I do not judge people by saying they do not have the Spirit for example. Do you do that? Be honest.

    You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God…[Read more]

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