Your take is different to the scriptures Nick. That is an issue that needs addressing.

Spiritual discernment doesn’t render any scripture with an opposite meaning. The word for that is ‘error’.

Sometimes we need to change our understanding, especially when it violates scripture and the message of God.

Your take is different to the scriptures Nick. That is always an issue.

Spiritual discernment doesn’t render any scripture with an opposite meaning.The word for that is ‘error’.

Sometimes we need to change our understanding, especially when it violates scripture and the message of God.

We can talk about the picture and the figures

Yes, I think you can talk about that too as it would be within the topic.

You can talk about what the uttermost part of the world means. You could for argument sake say that it just means the furthest reaches from Jerusalem that may not be just one place. You could debate the merits of which place is the furthest. Perhaps you could make reference to the gospel in New Zealand or Tahiti. Or maybe debate whether this…[Read more]

But it says:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Then you say:

so he was not already Lord and Christ when born.

You declare the very opposite. Your message is the anti-message.

But it says:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Then you say:

so he was not already Lord and Christ when born.

You declare the very opposite do you not?

A spiritual understanding of a biblical verse does not render the opposite meaning. This:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord – an Angel of God.

does not become this when spiritually discerned.

Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such. – Nick

In what…[Read more]

A spiritual understanding of a biblical verse does not render the opposite meaning. This:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord – an Angel of God.

does not become this when spiritually discerned.

Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such. – Nick

In what…[Read more]

A spiritual understanding of a biblical verse does not render the opposite meaning. This:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord – an Angel of God.

does not become this when spiritually discerned.

Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such. – Nick

In what…[Read more]

A spiritual understanding of a biblical verse does not render the opposite meaning. This:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord – an Angel of God.

does not become this when spiritually discerned.

Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such. – Nick

A spiritual understanding of a biblical verse does not render the opposite meaning. This:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Does not become this when spiritually discerned.

Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such. – Nick

Hi T8,

On the other hand, I understand Gene, Nick, Kerwin and Ed J.

What they say makes sense to me.

Maybe Jesus was born the Messiah in a prohetic sense. Messiah means anointed one.

When was Jesus anointed?

Danny

I hear what you are saying Danny, but the problem these guys have is that they are actually saying that Jesus was NOT born the…[Read more]

Hi T8,

On the other hand, I understand Gene, Nick, Kerwin and Ed J.

What they say makes sense to me.

Maybe Jesus was born the Messiah in a prohetic sense. Messiah means anointed one.

When was Jesus anointed?

Danny

I hear what you are saying Danny, but the problem these guys have is that they are actually saying that Jesus was NOT born the…[Read more]

It is about the end of the world or ends of the world. You can see that as it gives distances of cities from Jerusalem and the text “and to the end of the earth” is even in bold.

We already have a topic about the Jordan and when Jesus was born the Christ which seems to be where you want to steer this.

I will be deleting posts regarding that…[Read more]

It is about the end of the world or ends of the world. You can see that as it gives distances of cities from Jerusalem.

We already have a topic about the Jordan and when Jesus was born the Christ which seems to be where you want to steer this.

I will be deleting posts regarding that which are posted in the wrong topic.

There is a rule about…[Read more]

It is about the end of the world or ends of the world. You can see that as it gives distances of cities from Jerusalem.

We have already have a topic about the Jordan and when Jesus was born the Christ which seems to be where you want to steer this.

I will be deleting posts regarding that which are posted in the wrong topic.

There is a rule…[Read more]

It is about the end of the world or ends of the world. You can see that as it gives distances of cities from Jerusalem.

We have already have a topic about the Jordan and when Jesus was born the Christ which seems to be where you want to steer this.

I will be deleting posts regarding that which are posted in the wrong topic.

I am trying to keep…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin. In an effort to bring this discussion into its own, please repost it in the new topic dedicated to this conversation.

I will be deleting posts from now on that are about this, but posted in the wrong topic.

I want to keep things in their assigned place as it makes it easier to follow unique conversation.

This would also have the…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin. In an effort to bring this discussion into its own, please repost it in the new topic dedicated to this conversation.

I will be deleting posts from now on that are about this, but posted in the wrong topic.

I want to keep things in their assigned place as it makes it easier to follow a conversation.

I hope you understand.

So unless you deny Philippians 2:8-11 your teaching and broken and therefore false. If you deny it then you teaching is still revealed to be false no matter how many times you insist it is true.

Kerwin, if you copy this post over to the new topic, I will answer it.

Thanks.