You guys are changing my views on cencorship.

I am against it because it tried to quiet truth or alterative views.

The left have weaponized it.

But you guys have me rethinking my stance.

You really cannot have people posting the most foolish crap all the time.

It can bring a platform to ruin.

Prove me wrong.

Lol.

Mike, can you quote the post number where you have brought back the sun.

If you haven’t done it yet, then why are you scared to do it?

What I’d like to know is why you flat earthers keep going. You get utterly demolished in every single debate, yet you keep coming back. Usually with the same debunked garbage. Lol.

It’s one thing to be a simpleton, That is not a sin.

But fools incur judgement.

Lol, still missed the point dabbs.

Back to the drawing board.

My point debunks Mike.

If he is right, then it enforces that God is below the waters.

But you miss that I do not believe Mike is right, thus by extension I am not making that argument, rather Mike is making it without knowing it. If you still can’t get your head around it then just…[Read more]

Berean.

I’m going to ask you straight.

Are you a Seventh Day Adventist Flat Earther?

Mike face the truth, your one of these guys who swats at gnats, and sollows a camel. Your refusal to even believe any of these proofs offered to you, and it shows us all how your mind works, your “cognisity”,  of what is  true , and not true, has been greatly  compermised.

This is a true message. i do not know to what extent this applies to thos…[Read more]

Proclaimer,
God was not homeless prior to the creation of the raqia on Day 2.

Your not getting it dabbs. Completely not understanding my point. I can see why you believe in flat earth.

You and Gene keep overlooking the fact that the sun, moon and stars are IN the raqia that the waters are ABOVE.

Raqia is called heaven and there are three heavens.

If only one heaven in the raqia, then you need to equally teach that God who dwells in Heaven is below the waters.

Lol.

Berean’s point debunks Mike

Berean:
Before creating the heaven and the earth on which we live, God WAS IN HIS HEAVEN, WITH HIS SON AND HIS HOLY ANGELS.

AND THEREFORE THE RAQIYA WHICH HE MADE MUCH LATER WHICH IS BETWEEN THE TWO WATERS CANNOT BE THE PLACE OF GOD’S PERSONAL DWELLING.

Exactly. This shows that Mike’s understanding of raqia which is c…[Read more]

Let me help you berean.

First, we need to let scripture be deal with it.

If we believe scripture, then we need to understand the truth that God called the expanse – heaven, and God dwells in heaven.

Next, we already know that God is above all from many other scriptures.

So how do we reconcile?

Easy. we adjust our view of raqia.

If it b…[Read more]

 I think the best thing to do is not respond to him,  and just see where he takes his new converts  Berean and Danny to.

That would be handy. I prefer quality conversation than quantity any day.

To me the simplest way of saying it is, heaven is  the sky above.

Agreed. Some translations agree too.

Mike’s doctrine is based on misunderstandings.

Must answer question
What is the Hebrew word for heaven or heavens?

Are you stupid?

A day is not like a day for us.

It’s a scripture.

Not three raqias, Pretender, but three heavens.  The raqia is the firmament, and there is only one of those. The luminaries are IN it, and the waters are ABOVE it.

WRONG!

Let there be a raqia in the midst of the waters , and let it separate the waters from the waters. And God made the raqia, and separated the waters which were below the…[Read more]

@dannyd @berean

Ahhh, dabbs, you are getting it now. Berean missed the point.

There are three heavens.

This solves your waters above the stars problem.

So there is raqia between the water on the surface of our planet and in the sky as clouds that condense as rain and snow.

And then there are stars in the raqia which is probably the second…[Read more]

The alleged tilt brings the North Pole 3000 miles CLOSER to the sun at the very time the earth itself is 3,000,000 miles FARTHER from the sun… yet the tiny tilt is supposed to overcome the HUGE increase in distance from the heat source, and somehow make it WARMER? Only an idiot would believe such nonsense.

Mike, stop peddling this lie as it i…[Read more]

Simple Version for Mike

No, God is not in the raqia.

Just in case my post above is too complex for you to comprehend, I offer this trimmed down explanation.

God called the raqia heaven and God dwells IN heaven.

Something is awry with your model.

Lol.

No, God is not in the raqia.  Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now.

Your statement doesn’t align with scripture.

You can point out this or that, but you haven’t answered why your version of heaven / raqia contradicts scripture.

Easy. Let me explain.

Your model is wrong.

Therefore, you lose Mike.

You see…[Read more]

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