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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 10 months ago
Hi, t8,
If you follow along with the substance metaphysics of the fathers, then God is viewed as a wholly simple being, meaning no parts, no internal complexity, all alike inside. This is the arithmetic concept of unity, divine or otherwise. And yes, that certainly would mean the if the Father is God, then the Son is automatically ruled…
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 10 months ago
You’re right, T8. Ignoring hi9m is the way to go. Meanwhile, his posts do encourage me to practice up on being witty. For me, online forums are very good places to practice up on your communication skills.
Yes it is true that there is a benefit to all things if we are in Christ. Jesus put up with all kinds of people and it is said that even h…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 9 years, 10 months ago
It is another to call the church fathers all liars and those who hold with the Trinity all idolaters, etc.
The Trinity wasn’t taught by the Church fathers till later on. But Paul warned us about people from our own number who will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them.
As for what the Church Fathers taught, you will not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 9 years, 10 months ago
Hello again, t8,
You brought into p lay one passage in Scripture which does present s subordinationalistic view of Christ. However, there are other passages that do in fact identify Christ with God, such as the prologue to Jn. The Trinity is a central teaching in Christianity, due to these latter passages. The problem is putting them together…
Proclaimer replied to the topic The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 11 months ago
You were the one who said that you think that some of the biblical writers are prejudice. Thus inferring that all scripture is not God-breathed. It helped me to understand why you believe in a what you do My point was to simply say that scripture has much to say on the nature of God and your technique allows you to write off any verses you wa…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 11 months ago
You were the one who said that you think that some of the biblical writers are prejudice. Thus inferring that all scripture is not God-breathed. It helped me to understand why you believe in a what is called and extra-biblical doctrine. My point was to simply say that scripture has much to say on the nature of God and your technique allows you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 11 months ago
You were the one who said that you think that some of the biblical writers are prejudice. Thus inferring that all scripture is not God-breathed. It helped me to understand why you believe in a what is called and extra-biblical doctrine. My point was to simply say that scripture has much to say on the nature of God and your technique allows you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 11 months ago
You were the one who said that you think that some of the biblical writers are prejudice. Thus inferring that all scripture is not God-breathed. It helped me to understand why you believe in a what is called and extra-biblical doctrine. My point was to simply say that scripture has much to say on the nature of God and your technique allows you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why are some people homosexual? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 11 months ago
Well, then the question becomes: Why find them so objectionable? Also, are you saying you have deep-seated homosexual impulses you are continually struggling to keep repressed? If so , better see a therapist. Bad for your psychical economy to have to expend so much energy in your defense system. Also, if you don’t mind me asking, how much ex…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why are some people homosexual? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 11 months ago
Well, then the question becomes: Why find them so objectionable? Also, are you saying you have deep-seated homosexual impulses you are continually struggling to keep repressed? If so , better see a therapist. Bad for your psychical economy to have to expend so much energy in your defense system. Also, if you don’t mind me asking, how much ex…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why are some people homosexual? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 11 months ago
I don’t think you quite understand what I meant when I was talking bout the trinity. What I was saying is that the Trinity is rooted in Scripture. The question about homosexuality’s a different kind of question. Here, the issue isn’t whether it’s in Scripture , but whether one agrees with what Scripture has to say.
I wasn’t confused. Y…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why are some people homosexual? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 11 months ago
Hello, t8,
Your post here is a prime example of what I am trying to avoid and encourage others to avoid. Largely, you have come on with a personal attack against me.
Attacking or judging you would mean that I have said or implied that you are not saved, or lack the spirit, or perhaps that you are are stupid or other such thing. But I have not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why are some people homosexual? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 11 months ago
Hello, t8,
Your post here is a prime example of what I am trying to avoid and encourage others to avoid. Largely, you have come on with a personal attack against me.
Attacking or judging you would mean that I have said or implied that you are not saved, or lack the spirit, or perhaps that you are are stupid or other such thing. But I have not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why are some people homosexual? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 11 months ago
So you would be familiar with genetic disposition coupled with environment. If stats prove violence and other negative traits work this way, then it could well be the same for homosexuality. I wouldn’t rule out genetics totally because not all who are brought up in the same environment end up being homosexual.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 9 years, 11 months ago
Hi t,
So you have not been given the Spirit of truth.
If you are in Christ ask for it.
It’s amazing that you could know so much about other men. How is it that you know that all lack salvation but yourself?
And if we accept your teaching without question and do it, are we then saved?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 9 years, 11 months ago
who though he existed in the form of God
did not regard equality with God
as something to be grasped,
7 but emptied himself
by taking on the form of a slave,
by looking like other men,
and by sharing in human nature.
8 He humbled himself,
by becoming obedient to the point of death
—even death on a cross!He existed in the form of God. He was in…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Satan's "DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION " in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 11 months ago
Be careful what you call Satan’s doctrine. If God reveals that his son is unique and special and that we can be like him through redemption, then saying that Jesus is not so, rather an ordinary man like you and me might be offensive to God and border on accusing God as being Satan.
The truth is that yes, Jesus to the eye was a plain man hidden in…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Where is God exactly? in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 11 months ago
Hi t8,
Realise that the works of God are enabled by the Spirit of God and your judgements will cease.
Ascribing to man what is of God is folly.
Nick, I challenge you to look into the mirror and see what manner of man you have become and end your obsession with judging all but yourself. I think I have given you good advice Nick and that you would…[Read more]
Proclaimer wrote a new post 9 years, 11 months ago
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is personal. When I was an Atheist, I asked God to prove himself to me and that he did. I wouldn’t consider this proof f

Proclaimer replied to the topic Where is God exactly? in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 11 months ago
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is also personal. When I was an Atheist, I asked God to prove himself to me and that he did. I wouldn’t consider this proof for anyone but myself and that is why it is my faith. I cannot give anyone my faith. They have to seek for themselves if they want faith…[Read more]
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