What scripture are you going to use as the best example of the Trinity?

Okay I will prove you wrong.

Let’s dig deep right here and I will give you the advantage too.

Quote me your best scripture that teaches the Trinity and I will prove to you why it doesn’t teach the Trinity.

Here is the chance to delve into this scripture and give it the depth of investigation it deserves.

I await your scripture.

Okay I will prove you wrong.

Let’e dig deep here and I will give you the advantage too.

Quote me your best scripture that teaches the Trinity and I will prove to you why it doesn’t teach the Trinity.

Here is the chance to delve into this scripture and give it the depth of investigation it deserves.

I await your scripture.

Read again.  If the Father is eternal, then so is the Son.

You said that I said that the Father was not eternal. You were wrong.

And your statement is silly.

I am a father and have a son.

Who would say “If his father is 50 years old then so is the son”.

God has aptly demonstrated what Father means and what son means. No one really believes…[Read more]

hoghead. You are the one afraid to have a true debate on scripture. Not me. Cults are afraid of doing this because their ideas a extra-biblical like the Trinity is. They cannot rely on scripture to back up their view.

Well, we are already debating.  As for some sort of big debate, no, I’m not interested.

Then you have to retract your statement about me not digging deep into scripture because that is the very thing I want to do and you turned me down.

It takes a lot more to really dig into the depths of Scripture than just the  mere conviction you are rig…

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Well, we are already debating.  As for some sort of big debate, no, I’m not interested.

Then you have to retract your statement about me not digging deep into scripture because that is the very thing I want to do and you turned me down.

It takes a lot more to really dig into the depths of Scripture than just the  mere conviction you are rig…

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You can go on an anti-intellectual  rant all you want about the “wisdom of the world.”

What if scripture did that? Would you be against scriptures. What if Jesus said it. Would you be against him? I guess you must be because I said it and you are against me.

For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.

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You can go on an anti-intellectual  rant all you want about the “wisdom of the world.”

What if scripture did that? Would you be against scriptures. What if Jesus said it. Would you be against him? I guess you must be because I said it and you are against me.

For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.

And the world has its hands in s…[Read more]

It takes a lot more to really dig into the depths of Scripture than just the  mere conviction you are right

I can prove your wrong here. I am very willing to really dig deep into scripture with you in a debate because that is what it takes to dig deep. Otherwise you will skirt around the issues with this and that comment and not dig deep into e…[Read more]

The rest of your post shows you want to unduly attack the “experts” as being all “biased” simply because they do not agree with your views.

Sorry but you either misunderstood you you understood and told a lie. I never said and do not believe that all experts are wrong or make errors because of their bias.

Show me where I said that. If you cannot…[Read more]

Sorry, t8, that really doesn’t answer any of my questions.  If anything, your response makes your position appear even more untenable, as now you feel teh Father isn’t eternal either

Read again. Of course the Father is eternal.

Your reference to science seems way off topic, not an analogous situation

You missed the point then. I established that mainstream science and religious experts believe many things contrary to what scripture says. Thus you either trust in the scriptures or you trust in the opinions of so-called experts. Of course this is not true with all…[Read more]

I have yet to see you demonstrate any knowledge or study of any Trinitarian writings or doctrines or solid sources of biblical scholarship.

If understanding scripture was hard and we needed to rely on experts to interpret it for us, then we would need to put our trust in man. But scripture is not hard to understand if you have the Spirit and hear…[Read more]

I have yet to see you demonstrate any knowledge or study of any Trinitarian writings or doctrines or solid sources of biblical scholarship.

If understanding scripture was hard and we needed to rely on experts to interpret it for us, then we would need to put our trust in man. But scripture is not hard to understand if you have the Spirit and hear…[Read more]

HI, t8,

OK, so at what point prior to creation did Christ come along?  Why?  How? At what point did God teh Father come along?  If the Son is not eternal, then neither is the Father, as you can’t be a Father  without a Son?  So, what was leading up to these major changes in God prior to creation? What would you call God prior to being either…

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HI, t8,

OK, so at what point prior to creation did Christ come along?  Why?  How? At what point did God teh Father come along?  If the Son is not eternal, then neither is the Father, as you can’t be a Father  without a Son?  So, what was leading up to these major changes in God prior to creation? What would you call God prior to being either…

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HI, t8,

OK, so at what point prior to creation did Christ come along?  Why?  How? At what point did God teh Father come along?  If the Son is not eternal, then neither is the Father, as you can’t be a Father  without a Son?  So, what was leading up to these major changes in God prior to creation? What would you call God prior to being either…

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HI, t8,

Generally, scholars understand Philippians to be claiming  that Christ preexisted as God and that the surrendered  certain  privileges of such divinity in order to accomplish his mission.  That is based on a keener understanding of the Greek here than what you have.  That is way some Bible translations simply read “who being in very n…

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HI, t8,

Generally, scholars understand Philippians to be claiming  that Christ preexisted as God and that the surrendered  certain  privileges of such divinity in order to accomplish his mission.  That is based on a keener understanding of the Greek here than what you have.  That is way some Bible translations simply read “who being in very n…

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