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Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed,
Christ is not divided.
Neither is truth.
Yet you are divided with the angel of God’s message about Jesus being born as the messiah.
AngelBut the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who i…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed,
Christ is not divided.
Neither is truth.
Yet you are divided with the angel of God’s message about Jesus being born as the messiah.
AngelBut the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who i…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs kerwin about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 9 years, 9 months ago
Your question is corrupt as you intentionally though perhaps subconsciously take it out of context and then choose to misuse your authority to back it up. Do right not evil. :-||
The question could be asked of any scripture. Is it true or not. There is no malice, deception, or trickery in the question. All that is in the question is for you to…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs kerwin about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 9 years, 9 months ago
Yes Ed J.
Please answer the question yes or no, or I don’t know kerwin.
Be honest. If you are a son of God, then I shouldn’t even have to ask this of you.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs kerwin about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 9 years, 9 months ago
Yes Ed J.
Please answer the question yes or no, or I don’t know.
Be honest. If you are a son of God, then I shouldn’t even have to ask this of you.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Further, the world is not God’s. The Earth is his, but the world is under the sway of the god of this age.
If you love the world, then the love of God is not in you. Thus, the world is not of God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Why would Satan bother to tempt Jesus if Jesus already was ruler of all the kingdoms in the world?
Same reason that people might be tempted to give something up now for short-term gain and long-term loss when they are vulneraable.
A person once gave up his birthright for a single meal. All he could see was his hunger.
We could give up our…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 9 months ago
Too often, faith has been allowed to collapse into intellectual ascent to certain doctrines. it’s more important what you belie than how you live. I think it more important to God how you live. However, the deeper our faith, the more questions we have. Hence, theology, philosophy, biblical studies, all are important as well. So doctrines and t…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 9 months ago
T8…Who hear has denied that Jesus was born and was destined to be a savior?
Some here deny that he was born the Christ and savior. They deny he was born the Lord and the son of God as the angel declared.
Nice attempt at a dodge but the Devil is the best liar in existence.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Enamoured with false doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 9 months ago
@hoghead1
The doctrine of Christ is clearly laid out in scripture. There is no contradiction.
He is the son of the living God. God is his Father. God has a spirit by which he can be in all, even though our Father is in Heaven.
Proclaimer replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 9 months ago
@hoghead1
That isn’t the way it happened, t8. What did go down is that teh early fathers, working with Scripture, received, from the texts, strong implications that there was a Trinity.
The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. Initially, both the requirements of monotheism inherited from the Hebrew S…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 9 months ago
@hoghead1
That isn’t the way it happened, t8. What did go down is that teh early fathers, working with Scripture, received, from the texts, strong implications that there was a Trinity.
The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. Initially, both the requirements of monotheism inherited from the Hebrew S…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
God > Word/Christ/Jesus/Son > Mankind.
God is the head of all, even Christ.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
In summary…the Son must be eternal if His begettal was the FIRST work of God the Father and not the SECOND work of God the Father. A person’s existence is a prerequisite to the act of their begettal. The Son pre-existed His begettal. The begettal was the FIRST work not the SECOND. Therefore, He was not made before He was begotten. He eternally exi…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
Therefore, if you believe that the begettal of the Logos, (the Son) was the “first” work of the Father and not the “second” work of the Father, the Son had to have always existed eternally in order to have been begotten as the “first” work. If he had to be made and then begotten, the begettal would be the “second” work and the act of making Him w…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
Therefore, if you believe that the begettal of the Logos, (the Son) was the “first” work of the Father and not the “second” work of the Father, the Son had to have always existed eternally in order to have been begotten as the “first” work. If he had to be made and then begotten, the begettal would be the “second” work and the act of making Him w…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
I am going to assume that you understand the words that the Father spoke “Today I have begotten thee” refer to the day of theresurrection since you haven’t disputed this.
Do not assume this.
The Word came from God. The Word then became flesh. Jesus was then resurrected and now has a body of which we believers will also inherit.
There are three…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
Saying that the son was eternal in the past is basically saying he is not the son but a second eternal God with another one called the Father.
And then you have to ask yourself why they are called Father and Son. If they are co-equal and eternal, then they are eternal friends, not Father and Son.
Of course, I believe that Jesus is the son of God…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
Saying that the son was eternal in the past is basically saying he is not the son but a second eternal God with another one called the Father.
And then you have to ask yourself why they are called Father and Son. If they are co-equal and eternal, then they are eternal friends, not Father and Son.
Of course, I believe that Jesus is the son of God…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
Saying that the son was eternal in the past is basically saying he is not the son but a second eternal God with another one called the Father.
And then you have to ask yourself why they are called Father and Son. If they are co-equal and eternal, then they are eternal friends, not Father and Son.
Of course, I believe that Jesus is the son of God…[Read more]
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