So in short, when asked these questions, here are where we differ:

Do you believe that Jesus is distinct from the Father? We: Yes. You: Yes

Do you believe that Jesus is the same as the Father? We: Yes (Jesus said, John 10:30 “I and My Father are one.”) You: No.

Do you believe that Jesus has all the power of God? We: Yes. You: Yes.

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But what about those verses that shows that Jesus is God?

What about this verse which says that others are theos too.

 ‘We are not stoning you for any good work,’ they replied, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.’

34 Jesus answered them, ‘Is it not written in your Law, “I have said you are ‘gods’”? 35 If he called them “…[Read more]

But what about those verses that shows that Jesus is God?

What about this verse which says that others are theos too.

 ‘We are not stoning you for any good work,’ they replied, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.’

34 Jesus answered them, ‘Is it not written in your Law, “I have said you are ‘gods’”? 35 If he called them “…[Read more]

But what about those verses that shows that Jesus is God?

What about this verse which says that others are theos too.

 ‘We are not stoning you for any good work,’ they replied, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.’

34 Jesus answered them, ‘Is it not written in your Law, “I have said you are ‘gods’”? 35 If he called them “…[Read more]

T8,

There is no use that you point me to some verses in the Bible,  because we, Trinitarians, believe in the ENTIRE scripture, WITHOUT exception.

That is simply not true. You cannot by reason of the doctrine you hold to, believe Jesus own words of eternal life.

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ,…[Read more]

T8,

There is no use that you point me to some verses in the Bible,  because we, Trinitarians, believe in the ENTIRE scripture, WITHOUT exception.

That is simply not true. You cannot by reason of the doctrine you hold to believe Jesus own words of eternal life.

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ,…[Read more]

T8,

There is no use that you point me to some verses in the Bible,  because we, Trinitarians, believe in the ENTIRE scripture, WITHOUT exception.

That is simply not true. You cannot by reason of the doctrine you hold to believe Jesus own words of eternal life.

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ,…[Read more]

terraicca you are flogging a dead horse. If you do not believe that history is a teacher and we have nothing to learn from it, then that is your decision and your loss. I am not going to spend the rest of my days trying to convince you otherwise. I have more important things to do. Personally for me, history shows the fruit of many things. I do…[Read more]

The problem with you guys is that you try to measure God with your own logic.

Jesus said:
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

How important is it to know the one true God AND Jesus Christ? Well it is eternal life. Do you want eternal life?

Paul said:
yet for us there is but one…[Read more]

T8,

Trinitarians admit that Jesus is the Son of God, and also God, but not the Father. Nobody is saying that Jesus is God and so the Father is not. Who is saying that?

No one is saying that you or anyone is saying that Jesus is God and so the Father is not.

Is Jesus Christ the Way?

do you find that those two scriptures tells all of God’s ways ?
take the first sentence in Daniel 4;17 what does it say ?

“This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones; to the intent that the living may know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and set…[Read more]

do you find that those two scriptures tells all of God’s ways ?

“This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones; to the intent that the living may know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.”

Was Satan before the flood?

Regardless, Zeus was part of the Greek pantheon and considered the father of gods and men. For the Romans, Zeus went by the name ‘Jupiter’.

According to Wikipedia, the main sites of ancient Pergamon are to the north and west of the modern city of Bergama in Turkey.

Was Satan before the flood?

Regardless, Zeus was part of the Greek pantheon and considered the father of gods and men. For the Romans, Zeus went by the name ‘Jupiter’.

Donald Trump has slumped in the polls since that recording of him years ago was made public. It would almost take a miracle for him to win the upcoming election now.

What is Jesus?

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

The Word of God come in the flesh and now returned to the right-side of the majesty on high in the glory he had with him before the cosmos.

Jesus is unique. He is the first to be with God. He is first in all things. God made him to be Lord and Christ.

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Ok, if you think Jesus is not God, then WHAT is He? Don’t tell me that he is the Son of God, because trinitarians also believe that he is the Son of God.

Muslims believe that Jesus is the Christ. The catch is that he didn’t die for humanity and his death was unintentional. So do they really believe that he is the Christ?

Likewise Trinitarians s…[Read more]

Ok, if you think Jesus is not God, then WHAT is He? Don’t tell me that he is the Son of God, because trinitarians also believe that he is the Son of God.

Muslims believe that Jesus is the Christ. The catch is that he didn’t die for humanity and his death was unintentional. So do they really believe that he is the Christ?

Likewise Trinitarians s…[Read more]

@togel

I pointed out that translations are split on this verse, so it is not clear cut. And I pointed out that it is wise that we choose the option that agrees with context, rest of the letter, and the Bible as a whole. I do not think this to be unreasonable. If we accept that Jesus is God based on that and a few other dubious views of certain…[Read more]