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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Where the heck is the crater
Where the heck is the crater from the 10,000 pound thrust engine they had to fire to land this thing? Or the moon dust that should have blew up everywhere and completely covered the gold foil on the feet?
A quick google and I found this site that adequately answers this if they are correct.
- Landing rockets seldom…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Pressure
How could the ISS possibly withstand the exponentially greater vacuum of space, when the far lesser vacuum created by men was able to crush a heavy steel railway tanker car like it was one of those packing bubbles we all love to pop?
I cannot verify this given the time I have and lack of equipment, but a quick google brought this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
The moon’s gravitational force
If the moon has enough gravitational pull to move ocean water on the surface of the earth then why would it not also pull atmosphere away?
The Earth easily wins the gravitational tug of war. The moon still has an influence and the fact that there are different tides depending on where the moon is backs up this up.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Tracking the sun experiment
Did you watch the video of the sun being lifted back up from “setting behind the horizon”? Because you didn’t comment on it. Or on the one where the sun shrinks dramatically in size as it “sets” (moves farther away from the observer). Please watch and comment on those, as they were both in direct response to commen…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Aurora frequency argument
You’re in NZ, looking south towards a very small fragment of the ice wall. Why then should you see auroras any more frequently? Who else is out that far from the center, besides Argentina?
So your saying my basic premise is correct, but I need to consider that NZers and Argentinians only see a small percentage of the o…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Gene, what gives you the idea that I think the Earth is flat. I am arguing that it is not.I have no doubt it is sphere. lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
How bright, exactly, is the sun? You’re imagining a nuclear furnace a million times bigger than the earth, 93 million miles away. We’re imagining a small heat lamp a few hundred miles up in the sky… not too far above the clouds
The fact remains, you should still observe the sun after it dissappears, and at varying distances, because the sun w…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
In the flat earth model, the south pole is the entire circumference. That this kind of magnetic quality exists is verified by the existence of ring magnets (like in speakers), which also have a north pole at their center, with the south pole being the entire outer ring. In the flat earth model, we don’t discount electric and magnetic act…
Proclaimer started the topic The difference between truth and perspective in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Modern physics contend that physical reality is based on perspective. Speed for example changes things drastically. It not only changes your view, but time itself. It changes your NOW moment in relation to other people’s NOW moment.
I remember taking a car ferry between two islands. I parked my car inside the ferry, but all of a sudden the car s…[Read more]
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Modern physics contends that physical reality is based on perspective. Speed for example changes things drastically. It not only changes your view, but time itself. It changes your NOW moment in relation to other

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
God is true and we have perspective at best
Either the earth moves, or it is fixed and stationary – like the Bible clearly says, and like every experiment designed to show it’s movement has confirmed. It’s not a matter of where you’re looking at it. It either spins 1000+ miles per hour at the equator, while orbiting the sun at 66,600 thousan…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
@dig4truth
Good question. A quick google showed me this:the vacuum of space does not exert any force on the atmosphere at all. It does not “suck” the air. We associate the word “suck” with “vacuums” but it’s a misnomer. That’s not what vacuums do.
Consider an example where we’ve pumped all of the air out of some box and created a vacuum inside o…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Neil Armstrong was the first man to step on the moon. They accomplished this in a space craft with less computing power than the first Nintendo video game console
Computers were used for number crunching, for critical guidance and navigation calculations. Crews also carried slide rules for more routine calculations. So the computing power didn’t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike, one of the commenters in that discussion pointed me to this Youtube Channel. I thought the guy in this channel was quite talented.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Perfect explanation for the photo
So Mike. Here is what I believe is the explanation for my photo.The basic shape of the mountain starts at 600 metres above sea level, thus the shape should be mostly preserved because the bottom 600 metres doesn’t exist as far as the shape is concerned. Further, if we take into account possible refraction and a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Ah, no need to answer Mike. I know what he is saying. Yes, the top of the mountain is the shape because the bottom of the mountain is around 600 metres high, thus there is no shape to that. I didn’t consider that.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Regarding my photo, I have asked my Facebook friends in explaining it. While most comments were about skiing on the mountain or just complimenting the photo, one guy who I knew would engage in the conversation, did. Here is a snippet of that conversation:
I said:
So your best guess besides saying fake photo. Atmospheric lensing,…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Auroras again
Neither can I. So since we are unable to personally verify the stories we’ve been told about Antarctica and auroras, it’s best we leave them behind for now, and focus on things we are able to personally verify, don’t you think?
Mike, I am going to chalk one up for the Spherical Earth with this one simply because the same pheno…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Nick might have turned over a new leaf
Nick said:
Try not to get drawn into personal attacks.
That would be great Nick. Accusing people is not the smartest thing a Believer can do. Of course, I will continue to moderate the forums and also rebuke and reproof using scripture to test all teachings and assumptions.
I think it was Mike who…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
What to do if you lose your post
That’s funny Mike, I just attempted to link to this video, which I really liked, but the iPad had a glitch and the post was lost.
Hitting the back button usually brings you back to the post you were working on. Modern browsers have learned to store your data in such an event.
Another thing you can do if your p…[Read more]
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