The other problem I have with you three is your inability to answer yes or no, so I’m betting you will not answer this way, but will continue to write essays instead of answering simple questions.

“But let your statement be, ‘Yes, yes ‘ or ‘No, no’; anything beyond these is of evil

Don’t you really mean to say I have a problem because I reference Jesus as a man, when you say he was more than a man?

Of course Jesus was a man, I have no problem with this. It is a central belief I hold. My problem is not about something I believe about Jesus, but what the three of you believe and teach.

Nick has a rule. Jesus is always t…[Read more]

Jodi, your long posts are wasted because I and others do not have the time to read essays. I also dislike them because it is too easy to hide within many words and you can be less honest too because of complexity.

I way prefer a yes or no as it is very clear and honest. More than that and the Evil One can be hidden in the detail. Regardless, you…[Read more]

Since I do not see much transparency and honesty here, I have decided to show the debate here in a concise and clear way for all to see. Feel free to correct me on any of the points made and I will amend accordingly.

NOTE: GJN = Gene, Jodi, and Nick

T8: Was Jesus the Christ in the City of David?

GJN: No

T8: When did Jesus become the…[Read more]

ME: You are reading VERY incorrectly to what I have said. Jesus was able to overcome his temptation and not sin because God’s Spirit had anointed him.

Hang on a minute, are you not one of those who believe as Nick does that he was anointed at the Jordan with no prior connection to the Holy Spirit?

So how was he able to not sin, prior to his b…[Read more]

According to other scriptures I have over the years quoted here, that it was God who created everything “ALONE” AND BY “HIMSELF.  MANY SCRIPTURE SAY THAT.

Regardless of creating through, God is still the only creator. In other words Zeus for example didn’t create anything either through the Son or not. Only YHWH created all things. The Son is n…[Read more]

God created every thing through the channel of an act, for his purpose, not through a “preexisting ” being of somekind .

Bible
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.
Gene
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all…[Read more]

You have never heard me say Jesus is not the Christ,

Was Jesus the Christ in the City of David? If not, then that is one instance right there. The next question would be when he became the messiah according to you.

Bible
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.

Gene

but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he DIDNT MAKE the universe.

T8…..You have alway said Jesus preexisted as a being before Abraham , maybe not “born” as a human before him ,but prexisted before him.  The only problem you don’t say in what way he did .  You even preach God created everything through him,  SO YOU CERTANILY SEE HIM AS A PREXISTING BEFORE ABRAHAM.   To say you don’t is simply a lie.

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