I should add that when these writers talk of theos, they are not always addressing theos in person, but sometimes nature. In English it is hard to see this difference. In Greek for example, the definite article is there whereas we capitalise the first letter. For example, Adam or adam.

But God and god doesn’t really work in English because we…[Read more]

@dannyd

Hey guys! and everyone else I didn’t mention,

Irenaeus wrote around AD 185 and mentions John 1:1 five times.
In one reference he comments, “‘and the Word was God,’ of course, for that which is begotten of God is God.”
Irenaeus understood Jesus as more than “a god” or a divine being of a sort.
He referred to Jesus as God.
Let me repeat wha…

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Proclaim, The world will be amazed that the beast will reappear,  (except the faithful)

And I saw one of his heads as it were WOUNDED TO DEATH; and his deadly wound was HEALED: and ALL THE WORLD WONDERED AFTER THE BEAST. (Rev.13: 3)

Do you think Islam will bring about such a comeback?
I do not believe it, on the other hand, the Papacy is on all…

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Only if your view is that the head of god had nothing to do with Babylon at all and was simply about Nebuchadnezzar only. I would understand your view but still wouldn’t agree with it.

So is this how you view it. That the golden head of the statue had nothing to do with Babylon the empire?

The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

The Beast of Revelation represents seven empires that ruled in succession in the area around the Great Sea, the Mediterranean. These seven empires are a historical…[Read more]

If you really feel the need to choose one king per kingdom, then that doesn’t change how many kingdoms there are.

If Nebuchadnezzar is the head of gold and he ruled Babylon as did many other kings, then do the same for the other empires. That still leaves seven empires. Unless you want to take the view that the other metals in the statue are 6…[Read more]

“This calls for a mind that has wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; also, they are seven kings,

Exactly what I just said. Kings represent kingdoms. They are representative of their kingdom. Jesus is a king too. When you address a king, you are addressing the kingdom. When you want to engage with a kingdom, y…[Read more]

you need the key , even to begin to understand revelations and that key I have I’ve you all. It’s in Rev 17.

I do not want your key gene. It doesn’t open the lock. In your mind you think it does.

It is not written in a style to keep you happy. It is written to throw off those who are not of the truth.

For those that are truly interested. The King of Babylon was the head of gold. A king represents a kingdom. Babylon in our modern political view was an empire. It had many more kings besides Nebuchadnezzar though.

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The book of Revelation had copied the genre and images from the book of Daniel.

Opinions are a dime a dozen.

But the inner themes of Daniel are completely different from Revelation. The Four Kingdoms of the great Statue of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream and the Four Kingdoms of the four beasts of Dan 7 were no where in the vicinity of the book of R…

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But the so called Mark of the beast is COVID19 Vaccine is another myth by the Christianity

That statement is about as intelligent as saying that the Flat Earth system is another myth of Science.

It is clear that interpretations of Daniel and Revelation are a dine a dozen. What is clear to me is that both are taljing of the same beast, except that Revelation shows us more of the picture.

The reason for that greater revelation is that as time progresses, knowledge shall increase.

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@mikeboll64

How about it Mike.

To continue the conversation here not related to John 1:1 on the Hot Seat. Shall I set that up?

Perhaps there is a thread called “The Bible” or something.  I simply don’t have the time to be invested in a dozen different threads on a bunch of different subjects… especially when they all relate to the truth of scripture in one way or another.  This is, after all, a Bible discussion forum.

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So then God created the earth to be inhabited by men, but gave it an “atmosphere” that we couldn’t even see through, let alone breathe?

When you first build a house, you cannot live in it right away.

It takes time to make it habitable.

1 Timothy 6:20-21… O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions from science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.

I do my own science, and have found absolutely nothing that contradicts the world God described through Moses and other Bible w…

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I agree LU.

The Word was begotten and with God and came from his nature so was divine.

Then the Word became flesh…