Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 25 2011,09:23)Mike…………..I can't read your mind you could have simple said “OLD” TESTAMENTI'm sorry, I thought I did mention that I was referring to the OT.  My fault.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 25 2011,09:23)To answer your question , If you got my back the you have to be there to protect me. IF God is with a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 25 2011,09:38)Mike………….You question proves nothing it simply does not matter what they “think” they SAW it was NOT a SPIRIT PERIOD!.You're wrong, Gene.My question WILL prove something if you ever become man enough to actually ANSWER it. Here it is again:Gene, in Luke 24:37, did the disciples think they were…[Read more]

Princess,I am really at a loss here.  I have no idea what you're talking about, as it is Stu who is cowering (not “cowarding”) into the diversion corner from the questions I'm asking.  And I'm not sure how I ever persecuted Nick.  Apparently it is YOU who cannot fathom (not “phantom”) the truth here.I think I'll chalk your whole post up to “t…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 24 2011,19:29) Computers are designed, human brains aren’t.  This is not a point of interesting discussion, it is just incorrect to say that brains are designed, they are the product of natural selection.  If you can prove it’s wrong, then go for it.  But if all you have is an inability to believe it, or a prior commitment to a c…[Read more]

Are you paying attention, Wakeup?This is how it goes with Gene…….round and round and round. I've asked him a simple YES or NO question, but where is my answer?He NEVER actually ANSWERS a question. Instead, he just posts the same old tired blather over and over.(Btw, I've asked Gene this question earlier on this thread. I spent weeks just…[Read more]

Jeremiah 1:19They will fight against you but will not overcome you, for I am with you and will rescue you,” declares the LORD.This is what I was talking about, Gene. God says these bolded words to many people many times in the OT. My question is: Do you suppose that the PERSON of God was actually right there, standing beside the person to w…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Dec. 24 2011,18:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2011,10:59)Marty,How does “foreordained” EXCLUDE “pre-existed”?Hi Mike:The scripture in 1 Peter is referring to the man Christ Jesus, and the man, Christ Jesus could have not pre-existed because: Quote Genesis 3:30 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all…[Read more]

Hi Marlin,So you think “Jesus Christ” is the name of the Father, Son and Spirit?Don't you know that “Jesus Christ” refers to “Jesus the Anointed one of God”?Why would the name of God include a word that suggests our God was anointed by someone?  Who anointed God?

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Dec. 25 2011,05:29)Mikeboll wrote:Quote God Almighty has NEVER needed to have anything “GIVEN” to Him.  Nor has He ever needed another to place His enemies at His feet.Jesus would have NEVER needed anything “GIVEN” Him until He first gave it up OF HIS OWN VOLITION (Philippians 2).When will it sink in?JackJack, you forget…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Dec. 25 2011,05:44)To the Greeks the Logos meant “MIND” or “reason.Jack,Could you show your source that tells you this?  Because I've seen the word “logos” used many times in scripture to refer to any spoken or written word by anyone.  For example:1 Corinthians 2:4 NKJV © And my speech and my preaching were not with pe…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2011,02:50)yes I know angels are messengers,in fact you will read it in my post That's close to what I asked you.  I want to know if you realized the very word “aggelos”, from which we get “angel”, MEANS “messenger”.  It is not a case of angels BEING messengers, as you've stated.  It is a case of the very word MEANING “m…[Read more]

Okay Gene,Let's put your words to the test.  Maybe Wakeup will be watching, so be on your best behavior, okay?  Gene, you have INSISTED that there is only ONE meaning of “spirit” in the whole scriptures.  You have insisted that “spirit” ALWAYS means “the intellect inside someone”.Luke 24:37 They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a [Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 24 2011,12:13)Mike………..The WORD is a TILE NO a PERSON as you suppose it is,But you've just admitted in the Pre-existence thread that “the Word” is the title OF a person, right? Do you agree with your own words, Gene? In Rev 19:13, is “the Word” a title of a real live PERSON? YES or NO?

Gene, Jehovah says things like “You will succeed because I will be WITH you” many times.What do you suppose that means, Gene? Do you think Jehovah, the person, was standing right beside the men and fighting the enemy along with the soldiers? YES or NO, Gene?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 24 2011,12:25)So yes we do believe Rev 19:13 is a title given to Jesus…..Thank you Gene. Frank? Are you hip to this?

Marty,How does “foreordained” EXCLUDE “pre-existed”?

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 24 2011,10:01)To which of the angels??? NONE.OR………………….To which ONE of the angels? Jesus.Galatians 4:14Even though my illness was a trial to you, you did not treat me with contempt or scorn. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself.Wakeup, Do you acknowledge that…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2011,22:31)Not one scripture that say Jesus was changed from one state of being to another , by any means what so ever. Still would like to see one SPECIFIC Scripture that say that, if anyone knows any please post it.John 1 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 24 2011,08:10)our illustrious monitorThank you for those kind words, Gene.  Here's some more from Asana in the “Just brought to my attention” thread:Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 24 2011,00:30)Mike you must be a great moderator because I didn't even know you were a moderator until recently which means your arguments are…[Read more]

Wakeup, Did you not read my post? What about Noah? How many children did he have by age 500? Only three, right? That doesn't exactly support the notion that these guys were multiplying like rabbits, does it?You said:Quote Like I said They must have lived at least 100 yrs when cain murdered abel, and by that time there must have been children…[Read more]