Quote (jammin @ Jan. 01 2012,18:12)isaiah speaks GOD created heavens. just like in hebrews. and that is christ.And who was God speaking to and about in Isaiah 42, if the God doing the speaking and creating WAS Christ?  

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 01 2012,09:14)Will get back toby or should i say Astiri.

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 30 2011,20:56)if the bible is silent, you must be silentI wish the Bible would have been silent about the “others” in the land of Nod. Then I wouldn't have this dilemma in my mind.

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2011,22:37)But I believe that when Jesus was Resurrected it was in His glorified body, a spiritual body (by His words containing a component of flesh and bone).I disagree, Wm.It seems to me that “flesh” is commonly the antithesis of “spirit” in the scriptures. Rom 8:3 For God achieved what the law could not do…[Read more]

Quote Mike,We were not talking bout John 14:9.  the point was, the NWT translates “I AM” in all those scriptures, but not in the most important place there, because THEY had bias against Jesus being Devine God and Savior and man.Mark, NO THEY DON'T.  I have edited my previous post and supersized a part of it.  Read the supersized part to see wh…[Read more]

I don't know. There is no reason for me to think it hasn't always been Jesus.

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 31 2011,00:22)How do you reconcile Mat 28:19 and Acts 2:38?That's a good question, Marlin.  It is this very “discrepancy” in the scriptures that gives support to the claim that Matt 28:19 was added into scripture at a later time.Why would not one of Jesus' disciples follow his direct formula for baptism?As for your…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Dec. 31 2011,21:30)Hebrews 1 states that in these last days God has spoken to us by His Son.That's right Marty. God has spoken to us through many spokesman, as Hebrews 1 says. Only one of those spokesmen has been given the title “the Word of God” though.That one is Jesus, as Rev 19:13 makes clear.And John, the same author who…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 31 2011,02:32)that's your own opinion mike. give me a translation that says ” HE SAYS TO THE FATHER” in heb 1:10That's my point, jammin. There is no time that Paul says “HE SAYS TO THE FATHER”, because that would make the SUBJECT of the passage someone OTHER THAN the Father.Instead, the subject is ALWAYS the Father in the…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Dec. 31 2011,19:44)What did the disciple think they were seeing: They 'Thought' they were seeing a Spirit (Being).Hi Toby,So then the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37 actually MEANS “spirit BEING”, right? That's all I've been trying to show Gene for over a month.Also, do you think Jesus has a body in heaven right now? Thanks for your…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Dec. 31 2011,04:22)Mike I respect you and your knowledge of God. When you say things like……… it is degrading to me. If possible lets learn together without feeling the need to step on, denounce or degrade the others ideas or abilities. Thanks, much love to you!  TKSorry Tim,I didn't think about how you would take those words…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2011,07:12)Mike……….Were the disciples wrong or not , as simple “Yes or NO: will suffice.Gene,Did the disciples THINK they were seeing a spirit BEING or not? A simply “YES” or “NO” will suffice.

Gene,Our main difference on this issue is that when you read the following………..Exodus 3:12And God said, “I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.”………….you imagine that the Being of God Almighty was PHY…[Read more]

I thought Gene's comment AND Pierre's comeback were equally amusing. Light-hearted joking is easier for me to read here than angry abuse.

Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 31 2011,05:04)The NWT translates the Greek words “ego eimi” as “I am” every time it appears (Jn 6:34, 6:41, 8:24, 13:19, 15:5, etc.), except in Jn 8:58 where it is translated as “I have been”. What is the reason for the inconsistency in this translation? If “ego eimi” was translated in Jn 8:58 the same way it is translated…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 31 2011,12:59)THEREFORE:BEHOLD I AND THE CHILDREN JESUS MAN GOD HAS GIVEN ME!Sorry Charlie,It is Jesus doing the speaking, and he is saying, “Here I (Jesus) am, and the children (of God, as we all are) God has given me (out of the world).”It is a quote of Isaiah 8:18, and is supported by this scripture:John 17:6 “I have r…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 30 2011,20:28)10 He also says to the Son,  “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth     and made the heavens with your hands.Hebrews 1:10 does not begin with the words “He also says to the Son”.  This phrase is added in many Trinitarian versions to divert people from the fact that 1:10 is said about God,…[Read more]

Gene, You already KNOW that the disciples thought they were seeing a spirit BEING when they saw Jesus.  You have admitted that this is what they thought, and have voiced your opinion that they were wrong for thinking it…………remember?If that is the case, then the word “spirit” that Luke used means “spirit BEING” in that verse.  And once y…[Read more]

Don't I know it, Wm.I spent the first 36 years of my life in Davenport, Iowa. I don't envy you or Tim right now. I remember one winter when the sun didn't break through the clouds in 92 days! I'm sorry to hear about your many trials. I have not had any to speak of in the last three years. But I'm aware that bad things happen in this world,…[Read more]