Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 08 2013,18:04)Mike,It is possible that the “Word was made flesh”” can imply the “Word was made into flesh” as I can understand the clause “”the ingredients were made cake” as “the ingredients were made into cake”.  After all the ingredients are in the cake.Is there another understanding of “the ingredients were made cake”…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 08 2013,11:19)Mike,Quote Agreed.  Jesus, ACCORDING ONLY TO THE FLESH, was an offspring of David.  So according to WHAT was Jesus the ROOT of David?And why make the distinction in the first place?  If there wasn't anything to Jesus except for the “ACCORDING TO THE FLESH Jesus”, then why mention it?Romans 4:1King James Ve…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 07 2013,22:33)No,  the utterance did not literally become flesh and blood……..The Word was made flesh not made into flesh.So although it says the Word not only was made flesh, but also dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son, you have decided that the Word WASN'T really made flesh?And you have decided to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 08 2013,16:36)……..Col.1:16-17 refers to “The Father”……………I disagree, and think it's reckless of you to up and switch subjects in the writing when the one who actually wrote it gave no indication of a subject switch.What I posted was to allow you to see that, even keeping Jesus as the subject all the way through the…[Read more]

Quote (John3:3 @ Aug. 07 2013,09:42)That is why I wanted to enlighten the ones here that are diligently seeking the truth with the fuel project video series. The rabbit hole goes much deeper than that too, trust me.I told you in the other thread, but thanks again for bringing our attention to that series.I believe you that the rabbit hole goes…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Aug. 06 2013,23:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,17:26)I apologize to all for that angry outburst.  It was uncalled for, and said only out of frustration.Hi Mike,Apology accepted.Thanks, Abe.

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 07 2013,10:27)And this verse of scripture, the serpent is speaking to Eve, and he is correct they became “as gods knowing good and evil”, but neither one of them became “a god”.Hi Marty,Thanks for your answer. Your input and insight is always welcomed and considered by me.Although in this case, I believe you are inadvertently…[Read more]

The bolded part is well said, Pierre.Abe, all you've done is list even more scriptures that speak of other gods, and Jehovah's instructions to the Israelites to not invoke their names like those other nations do.Jehovah didn't refute the existence of the gods of the other nations. He just said not to call on them, bow to them, or worship…[Read more]

I was thinking the same thing when I watched that part.  It seems that many of the early U.S. presidents knew how ludicrous the claim that Jesus is God was.  Good for them!  

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,16:28)Mike,The NET notes are notes about how the words are chosen to translate and the structure in which they translate. It is not a Bible commentary so that is probably why they didn't include a commentary of the passage. They did say that it was a quote of Isaiah 8. Open your eyes.The NET Bible is full of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,23:00)To show you that the Bible commentator scholars can see this…………..Kathi,There is not one shred of scriptural evidence that even hints at the possibility of Jesus existing from eternity. On the contrary, there are loads of scriptures that speak of him having a beginning.And no amount of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,22:39)Since you realize that Jehovah of hosts is the stumbling block that Jehovah has laid in Zion…………Are all “stumbling blocks” in scripture Jehovah? Or is there more than one “stumbling block” mentioned in scripture?Which one, Kathi?

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,22:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,19:20)So, IN THE CONTEXT OF MATTHEW 16:16, is Jesus “THE living God”?  Or the other one?Mike,The 'Living God' in Matt 16:16 is the Father……… Matt 16 mentions the two but applies the term 'Living God' to the Father in that context.Thank you for your direct and honest…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,22:27)This is one way for me to show you that your heart is blind since you cannot see the connection when others much more knowledgeable than you (the Bible commentators) can see the connection.And what about the 25 Trinitarian scholars who produced the NET Bible?  Are their hearts equally blind on this one?Kathi,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 07 2013,09:30)MikeSo is the Spirit “metaphorically” the Lord also?I think it says “the Lord is that spirit”, not “that spirit is the Lord”.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 07 2013,09:30)Did David say where Gods Spirit is there he is “metaphorically”?No, David didn't say “metaphorically”.    But David did make it c…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2013,06:42)Hi Mike, Why doesn't it instead tell you that “The Word” is God's HolySpirit?Why? Does God's Holy Spirit have a will of its own – that may or may not agree with God's will?Hey, are you ever going to comment on the post at the top of this page? I re-posted it for you a second time because I thought maybe you never…

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2013,16:08)Hi Mike,1. The Hebrew word is אֱלֹהִים EL-o-heem, not gods; you are trying to back-translate English to Hebrew again. 2. I believe EL-o-heem in this instance means THE ANGELS.1. Stop with that nonsense, Ed. If I'm “back-translating” gods into Genesis 3:5, then aren't you also “back-translating” God into any…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 05 2013,22:50)Terricca….. Right from the start…………….Gene,There is a question awaiting an answer from you. Please either be willing to answer my questions, or don't post to or about me anymore, okay?Don't even mention my name or comment on one single thing I write UNLESS you are also willing to stand and…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 06 2013,11:26)Hi Mike:Please watch the following debate to see why it is so important to understand in what context God calls humans gods.Hi Marty,I might give it look when I get the time. Many think that in scriptures like Psalm 82, it is men who are being called gods. It is not. Psalm 82 is about Jehovah's heavenly…[Read more]

Eddy's been falling hard since I've known him. But I still love him.BTW, Abe was only quoting what I said. Unfortunately, I'm the one who told them to pull their heads out of their butts. Those were my words, not his.I apologize to all for that angry outburst. It was uncalled for, and said only out of frustration.