Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 08 2013,06:43)JDG 11:24 ‘Do you not possess what Chemosh your god gives you to possess? So whatever the LORD our God has driven out before us, we will possess it.Apparently, Jephthah believed that Chemosh was a real god, who can give things to his people.What I want to know is what exactly convinces t8 and the others t…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2013,16:50)Let's try again.God's Word steps out of God,and was given a shape(body). They communicated with one another.God commands his Word to do the creating.The first one, as flawed as it was, still made more sense than this one.  Wakeup, I like you and don't mean to ridicule, because I know you are a serious student of…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2013,16:50)The second torch,which came forth from within the first torch,is also the first torch.Let me stop you right there, Wakeup. The Son OF the Most High God is not also the Most High God.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,11:59)As far as you know has there been any claims of divine beings claiming to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?Asana,If your Allah is truly the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then the NAME of your God is YHWH.Allah is the Arabic word for “the god”. So while we call Him “Jehovah God”, you can call Him…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 08 2013,14:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2013,17:40)Can you show me this “false god” thing you're talking about in scripture, Asana?  Because I'm quite sure there is no such thing in scripture as a “false god”.Deuteronomy 32:17 They sacrificed to false gods, which are not God— gods they had not known, gods that re…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 09 2013,16:43)And if the scriptures state there were many saviours, they went as His representatives, and without Him they could do nothing.The scriptures DO state that, Marty.  I'm sure you realize that Jesus is one of those saviors, right?  And Nehemiah 9:27 speaks of saviors that Jehovah has sent, while Obadiah 1:21 s…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 09 2013,12:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2013,18:32)Keith, you are outgunned here. Give up the fight.Ha Ha! I know you want me to go away and I will.But it seems to me that every time you shoot your Polytheistic cap gun it gets destroyed by an atomic barrage of scriptures! WJI didn't tell you to go away, Keith. I…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 09 2013,12:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2013,17:36)How about when he says that Jehovah made mankind a little lower than the gods?  Were we made a little lower than man-made idols?MikeWhere is the scripture that says this?The Septuagint  reads…Thou madest him a little less than angels, thou hast crowned him with glo…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 09 2013,11:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2013,23:22)The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk.Do you see how they worshipped b…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 09 2013,11:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2013,17:36)What does David mean in Psalm 29, where he says, “Worship Him all you gods”?   First of all Mike it is Psalms 97:7All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols — worship him, all you gods !  Look at the context, the Psalmist clarifies that the…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 09 2013,12:33)Ok, Mike, how do you reconcile these two scriptures:Quote Deuteronomy 10:17 For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality nor takes a bribe.Quote Isaiah 44:6“Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:‘I am the…[Read more]

Marty, You have it right this time.  Here is the NET version of Psalm 82:82:1 God stands in the assembly of El; in the midst of the gods he renders judgment. 82:2 He says, 6  “How long will you make unjust legal decisions and show favoritism to the wicked?”Footnote #6 says:The words “he says” are supplied in the translation to indicate that the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 08 2013,17:19)Mike B.T8,gave a very good analogy regarding the one torchlighting up the second torch, and the second torch lighting up all the torches.That's akin to a Trinitarian “explanation”, Wakeup.For the fire of the latter torches is exactly the same as the fire of the first torch.And Jesus is lesser than his and our…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 08 2013,13:25)A passage in Philippians 2 seems to hint at that possibility but it also seems to hint that he was not a servant and then became one. Is it wise to base a teaching on hints?Actually, that passage in Phil 2 directly and plainly explains how Jesus was existing in one form BEFORE emptying himself and being made in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 08 2013,13:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 09 2013,00:22)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 07 2013,17:36)What do you mean when you claim Jesus was fathered “directly” by God?I mean that Jesus wasn't made BY God and THROUGH a human father as well.We all have a heavenly Father and a human father.  Jesus was fathered directly by Jehovah…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2013,10:43)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 09 2013,22:18)Do you see the word “before” in verse 6 above?My sentiments exactly, Pierre.  Marty, your God-given common sense should tell you that Jesus was existing in one form BEFORE emptying himself and taking on a different form.But the only thing you really need to take away from…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 08 2013,09:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2013,09:11)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 07 2013,14:43)…..like us in every way, although he was not born of the sperm of man……….Like us in every way – except that none of us were fathered directly by God Almighty?Marty, Jesus was always different than we are.  He had to be made…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 07 2013,17:36)What do you mean when you claim Jesus was fathered “directly” by God?I mean that Jesus wasn't made BY God and THROUGH a human father as well.We all have a heavenly Father and a human father. Jesus was fathered directly by Jehovah Himself.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 07 2013,18:30)Yes, ALL are false gods except THE ONLY TRUE GOD which means “false” gods are not gods at all.Can you show me this “false god” thing you're talking about in scripture, Asana? Because I'm quite sure there is no such thing in scripture as a “false god”.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 07 2013,16:48)That is incorrect, Polytheism is the **BELIEF** in gods the belief is that more than one God exists it has nothing to do with Worship.IF you use the “belief in” definition of polytheism, instead of the “belief in AND worship of” definition, then you are right.And if that is the definition you want to use,…[Read more]