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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 26 2014,06:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2014,13:39)I only need to accept the words YOU said, jammin.If he has limitations, then he is not God.Jesus has limitations.  That should clear it up once and for all, right?that is the HUMAN nature of JESUS.do you understand?So Jesus exists right now with both human and God…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 26 2014,00:10) ……this one deserves an answer;Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,08:55)The angels were called “sons of God” but they did not come forth out of the Father, because they were created.Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Created out of what, journey?God spoke and they were created.Jesus is different from any other however,…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,22:49)In the BEGINNING, the Word was there,it was WITH God, (creating)And it WAS God  (before he started creating)So in your mind, John, for some odd reason, listed the events out of order?Shouldn't he have said “the Word WAS God, but then the Word came to be WITH God” ?Why does John have the Word being WITH God…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2014,21:20)Hi MB,”SomeTHING that used to BE God can't later become someONE who is no longer God. “AhemIs God a thing or a one to you?God is spirit-get over itIs the Word of God from John 1:1 and 1:14 a someTHING – or a someONE, Nick?What is your answer?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 25 2014,22:49)You need to refute that Jesus can't be man because he is the Son of Man before you can refute that Jesus can't be God because he is the one and ONLY true Son of God.Can Jesus BE the VERY man that he is the son OF?  No.Therefore Jesus can't BE the VERY God that he is the Son OF either.Consider your point…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,09:15)And the Word “WAS” God.Not And the Word “IS” God.God doesn't change, journey.Something that used to BE God can't later become someone who is no longer God.

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    Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,08:55)The angels were called “sons of God” but they did not come forth out of the Father, because they were created.Created out of what, journey?

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 24 2014,14:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2014,03:49)You are correct:  Jesus, as a flesh human being, was the product of BOTH Mary and Jehovah.Mike,DOES THAT MEAN, THAT GOD, NEEDED A WOMAN TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR HIM TO BE BORN IN JESUS' BODY?DOES THAT MEAN THAT GOD IN A WAY WAS SUBJECT TO A WOMAN?Peace and love in…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 24 2014,07:41)unless you dont want to accept that verse then you have to make your own heb 1.10 hahahahActually,I only need to accept the words YOU said, jammin.If he has limitations, then he is not God.Jesus has limitations. That should clear it up once and for all, right?

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 23 2014,20:10)Mike is both right and wrong. Faith itself is evidence. To Abraham God's word alone was enough evidence because he had faith in it.Again, Abraham couldn't look a year into the future and SEE his newborn child. He did NOT have any EVIDENCE, or hard PROOF that he would have that child.Instead, he had FAITH…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 23 2014,20:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2014,22:58)See the difference?  It didn't take “faith” to believe a formerly blind man regained sight – because they SAW it with their own eyes.  They saw EVIDENCE of it, so it didn't require any FAITH to believe it.Faith, on the other hand, is the belief in something for which we H…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 23 2014,19:44)Mike,Quote You are correct:  Jesus, as a flesh human being, was the product of BOTH Mary and Jehovah.When did you arrive at this new belief?New belief? Does Jesus have a HUMAN father? If not, then God is his ONLY Father, right?How about Adam? Who was his mother? Nobody, right?But who was his ONLY Father?…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 23 2014,19:39)Wakeup,Not that I am aware of.  I read a lot and book have no personal interrelationship and are open to interpretation.  The author can be, and often is, full of nonsense.  They do not challenge my believes as much as debate does.  There is no cross examining them.  A poor substitute for debate and that is the…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Mar. 23 2014,13:47)MIKEyou have faith in god.  Would you say you have this faith with no evidence?Yes David.I have FAITH that the Bible is the written word of a God named Jehovah.  But I don't have any hard evidence to prove that my belief is true.I have FAITH that the wonders and diversity of nature and the cosmos were created – b…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 23 2014,16:36)Mike,As is a comparative word and it is comparing the glory of the word that is flesh to the glory of the only begotten of God.  It, at the least, hinds there are two parties being compared to one another.Red herring #4, Kerwin.Could “glory as of the only begotten from the Father” mean, “a glory such as one…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 23 2014,16:31)In classical Greek the middles often is reflective such as in the statement John cleans himself.  So according to that the Word is performing an action on itself.  So a better translation would probably be the word made itself flesh.Okay.  It is said that HE partook in flesh, right?  And that HE emptied him…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 25 2014,18:28)……Jesus is revealed as God multiple times even after he took flesh.Hi Daniel,  Jesus either IS our one and only Most High God Jehovah – or he is the Son OF that one and only Most High God Jehovah.He can't be both.In the scriptures, Jesus was revealed as the Son of God.  In fact, when the Most High God J…[Read more]

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    Ed,If the KJV has “a devil”, but you know in your heart that Jesus never said “a devil”, then is that translation by the KJV correct?  Or flawed?Which one?Also, think of the numerology implications this will cause.  I don't know what the numerological value of “a” is, but if the KJV adds that indefinite article about 7000 times (a typical number f…[Read more]

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    I was locked out again last night. I logged on, read a post from Nick, and made a reply to him. I hit “Submit Post”, and got a long buffer wheel, and then an error code. Error 524 I believe.It said your server was no longer available, or having technical difficulties.I also had 4 different Bible sites open at the same time – all of which were…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2014,12:54)Hi MB, Should we speculate?I don't know, Nick………..Are YOU speculating that John was talking about Isaiah seeing GOD'S glory?Listen……..They refused to believe in JESUS.  This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah.WHAT was to fulfill the word of Isaiah, Nick?  The fact that they didn't believe in J…[Read more]

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