@t8

You speak to Jael as if you agree with him and his theology. Seriously? He doesn’t even believe in the pre-existence of Christ.

Also, you speak as if I am alone in my beliefs even when the Nicene Creed is what I believe in. Is that wise? Do you think I wrote the Nicene Creed? Do you really believe that I invented that creed? How silly. I’m…[Read more]

@jael

you said a bunch of wrong asumptions here:

a.You seem to think that we live by the Nicene Creed. No, Lu, WE (I) DO NOT.

b.You see no credit given to God for raising Christ: ‘He rose again on the third day’, as if he did so of himself!! This because the creed would have to explain how Jesus is God but had to be raised by someone GREATER – t…

[Read more]

@jael

you said a bunch of wrong asumptions here:

a.You seem to think that we live by the Nicene Creed. No, Lu, WE (I) DO NOT.

b.You see no credit given to God for raising Christ: ‘He rose again on the third day’, as if he did so of himself!! This because the creed would have to explain how Jesus is God but had to be raised by someone GREATER – t…

[Read more]

@jael

You are so confused.

you said:

Since trinitarians and JiG’s believe they are all the ONE PERSON…

Trinitarians believe they are three persons. You don’t even seem to know the basics of the trinity doctrine yet you debate it? Is that wise?

@jael

Seriously, you can’t see it?

you asked:

LU, read biblehub: “English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me , the first of his acts of old.” (my brackets)

Where is my ‘misquote’?

Here is your original quote:

Suffice it to say that ‘an eternal son’ does not match with ‘possessed me as the first of his works’.

Those two quotes of yours a…[Read more]

@jael

you asked:

Lu, are you saying Jesus created mankind?

The unity of God made mankind of which the Father, Son and their Spirit are part of.

Genesis 1 25God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26Then God said, “L…[Read more]

@jael

you said:

God is not a man’…that you should equate human fatherhood with the Spirit of God as Father.

Do human fathers have eternal sons within them? No. I am not equating the fatherhood of God to human fatherhood at all. Think…

Regarding Jesus as the second Adam…simply put…the One through whom the first Adam was created became par…[Read more]

@t8

There are those who are in the unity of God, i.e, the Father, Son, and their Holy Spirit…and there are those who are in unity because of their common faith IN the unity of God. All will take their part within the kingdom of God. There will be the unity of worshipers in the kingdom of God and there will be the unity of God which is the…[Read more]

@t8

I noticed that you seem to be unsure that Jesus is the Word of God from what you said here and I noticed that you did not understand what the early church father is saying regarding the Son of God. I would like to help you out here in these regards…

This is what you said:

if Jesus is the Word that was with God etc, this does not make him…

[Read more]

@t8  @jael

Well, well…interesting to read your thoughts about what I believe while misquoting me, twisting my words, etc. Are ya’ll trying to do this on purpose for some strange satisfaction? Is that wise or does that show a lack? For instance, let me start with some of Jael’s comments:

Jael, you said:

She thinks of the PHYSICAL (fleshly)…

[Read more]

@AndrewAD

You wrote:

In these verses we see it’s the Father who reveals the Son,and the Son who reveals the Father so this shows their unity and interdependence. Jesus also says no man comes to the Father but by me,and no man can come to me except the Father draw him,I and the Father are one,if you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father.We can thank…

[Read more]

@Andrew

You wrote:

In these verses we see it’s the Father who reveals the Son,and the Son who reveals the Father so this shows their unity and interdependence. Jesus also says no man comes to the Father but by me,and no man can come to me except the Father draw him,I and the Father are one,if you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father.We can thank…

[Read more]

@jael

Jael, you asked Andrew this:

Andrew, you should read what the scripture says, not what you WANT it to say.

Where does the text you wrote say that the father reveals the son?

Nowhere. It only says that the son reveals the father…

I assume that Andrew can handle this himself  but since this is an open discussion, I am willing to help you al…[Read more]

@jael

you say things but you don’t realize how you affirm the unity of the Father, Son and their Holy Spirit. Think about it, my young friend. The Son does nothing to completion apart from the Father and likewise, the Father does nothing to completion apart from the Son.

Who made the Father the creator? Answer…The Son who was the eternal life…[Read more]

@jael

Just meditate on the perfect, eternal unity of the Father and the Son with an open mind.

If you believe God the Father to be in perfect unity with His Son and Their Spirit…eternally, (past, present and future), then this perfect eternal unity really make up the fullness of the one true God. Each aspect is a vital part of who God is. Each aspect is interdependent to the other.

The perfect unity of God is what is beautiful. Within…[Read more]

@AndrewAD

I just read this today and saw that you posted about the lineage of Yeshua. I think this will help you in that regards.

http://free.messianicbible.com/feature/yeshua-pass-first-messianic-test/

@Andrew

I just read this today and saw that you posted about the lineage of Yeshua. I think this will help you in that regards.

http://free.messianicbible.com/feature/yeshua-pass-first-messianic-test/

@jael

you said:

Lu, ever heard of the word, ‘OXYMORON’??

‘God has more authority than his son but they are both equal’!!

You, Jael, as a son of your earthly father, were subordinate to him while he was raising you. However, during that time and also now, you have both been equally human have you not??

@t8

Of course there is this passage to tell us that the Son was eternal from the beginning:

1 John 1
1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, a…[Read more]