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Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
t8,
What that light is on day one is very relevant to this topic. Wouldn’t you agree since the topic is largely about what makes a day actually an evening and a morning, and what revolves around what, etc.?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Did4truth,
If you are going to quote me in the future, please quote the complete thought word for word so there is no confusion. I’m not normally so particular but with this about the Light of day one, I am.
My words:
The unformed and void heaven and earth and day and night were created on day one. Light was brought forth on day one, not…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Of course the Son was existing with God when the work of His begetting took place from God, His Father. Where else would He be but right there within Him?
John 17:For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee…
The Firstborn of all creation! The Light of the world!
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick,
You would be pretty useless on the earth as a man without flesh. It’s a strange thing to think that the flesh contributes nothing.
Messiah’s flesh provided the blood to shed to redeem the world. That’s a big deal!!
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Hi Dig4truth,
you said:
Lightenup: “The unformed and void heaven and earth and day and night were created on day one. Light was brought forth on day one, not created. The created lights came on day 4.”
Sounds pretty good. Why do I feel like I’m being set up?
That’s good that you are thinking. The Light was begotten on day one. The Son is th…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
The unformed and void heaven and earth and day and night were created on day one. Light was brought forth on day one, not created. The created lights came on day 4.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Nick,
I realize that is not your confession. It was the disciples.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Hi Dig4truth,
you said:
Lightenup, Yeshua was before the world began. Please remember that.
Of course, He was eternally within the Father before He was begotten on day one. Then, all things went from formless to formed by Him and for Him.
Is this your confession Dig:
Do you confess and believe in Christ who was crucified, and do you confess…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick,
God is one, true.
Jehovah is God of gods and Lord of lords they are ONE…our great and mighty God.
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick,
you asked:
The vine became like the branches and then became again like the vine?
Look at the context, that will help you, Nick.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
About the first day of creation and the Light…I recently saw this in an ancient Syriac writing of the “Teachings of the Disciples” which I had read before but forgot or missed that it said this about the first day of the week, day one.
2. The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
T8,
Thanks for the video. That was terrific, simple and clear. The earth is a globe!
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick,
you asked:
s the vine more alike
To the Gardener,
or
To the branches?
Philippians 2:5And reason in your souls this that also Yeshua The Messiah did: 6He who, while he was in the form of God, did not esteem this as a prize, that he was the equal of God, 7But he stripped himself and took the form of a Servant and was in the form of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick,
You said:
n the verses you offered from Jer 23 the word JEHOVAH OCCURS 6 times.
In your mind do they all reference the SON OF GOD.?
If not how do you tell which God is meant?
Here is the passage in question:
Jeremiah 23:1Woe unto the shepherds that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith Jehovah. 2Therefore thus saith Jehovah,…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike you quoted me and then responded:
Kathi: Also, Mike, I don’t know if you remember but I believe that day one of creation has to do in part by bringing forth the Son as the firstborn of all creation, begotten, not made…the Light of the world.
Yeah, I commented on your first post about that. I said that the words “Let there be” in G…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike,
What day were the third heavens made? Do you know?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Also, Mike, I don’t know if you remember but I believe that day one of creation has to do in part by bringing forth the Son as the firstborn of all creation, begotten, not made…the Light of the world. The Light that sustained the upcoming creation was/is the Son and the Father…ultimately, no need for the sun to exist in order to sustain life,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike,
Regarding Astronaut Chris and his less than perfect wording, that’s all I believe it was. I still got the point and the context was that the ISS was in space talking to students in CA which was across the States from where the students were. I’m sure my sentences aren’t always clear. If I forget a comma, then you might think I’m calling one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Here Mike and all,
This video should help learn about the ISS:
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Hi Dig4truth,
You wrote this:
The text also makes it clear that it was a day and not a “stage”. Remember, He speaks to us in terms we can understand and He doesn’t lie. If He said it is a day then it cannot be two days or a thousand years.
Please notice the use of the word day that you claim must mean one day:
4This is the account of the heave…[Read more]
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