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Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Hi Jodi,
I didn’t see your answer to these questions yet. Maybe I missed it. Could you copy and paste a short and direct answer of these questions if you already gave me your answer. If you didn’t yet give your answers to this, please do so.
I asked:
Who do we all belong to as a son/daughter before we become a son/daughter of God?
Also, please…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Thanks Anthony and t8, I hope that helps Mike and Dig4truth.
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick,
Who was the father that contributed to Jesus’ being? Mary was the mother that did.
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Gene,
Thank you for clearing that bit up about God not having sex with Mary. Are you aware that spirits did (and probably still do) have sex with women and made nephilim? So, spirits can somehow have sex with humans but God clearly did not do that. I’m glad we agree there.
Also, the Father calls Jesus “LORD” as in YHWH. You ought to do a study…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
you said it perfectly here:
Jesus was not created. He existed from eternity along with God the Father. Maybe the Son was birth of the Father somehow just a thought.
I have believed for 26 years now that Jesus always existed from eternity along with God the Father, and that HE WAS birthed of the Father. I believe that God showed me when…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Nick,
Is the one called “the Spirit of God” the same as the “Spirit of Christ” in your view?
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Jodi,
I said:
“Jodi, spiritually speaking, if Jesus wasn’t always God’s son, who’s son was Jesus before he became God’s son? Please answer this before we move on.”
you said “I do not understand your question, maybe you can rephrase it?”
Ok, in other words…if there was a time when Jesus was not God’s son, which you say didn’t happen until the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Spoiler alert…the so-called “solid firmament” is not solid. Read on:
Mike said
Anthony said: Depending on the context, the word can refer to that which is immediately above us, where flying birds, clouds, and rain are.
Mike responded: Yes, that is the first heaven – which is never referred to by raqia, since it is not solid.Genesis 1…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Hi Dig4truth,
you asked:
Lightenup, what was the earth orbiting before the sun was made?
Seems to me that the orbit was set into motion on day 4. It is the orbit of the earth around the sun that gives us seasons. There was no orbit before day 4, imho.
Did you watch the video of Charlie Duke’s testimony? I really want to know what you think of it.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Mike,
Perhaps all their answers are right in their own context from their unique perspectives. The video takes short comments out of their full context. Why aren’t you critical of that?
From the overwhelming evidence of a globe earth in Charlie Duke’s testimony, you still want to keep this up? Watch that video over and over (as many times as you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Nick,
How do you think his human spirit was different than the spirit of Christ? Do you believe that the pre-Jordan Jesus didn’t know that God was his father?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Mike,
Regarding your wet flag theory, the flag does not have a normal drying pattern if it were wet. The seams would be darker because they would be thicker and stay wetter than the thin area between the seams but that is not what the picture is showing. I suspect that the photo shopping done on pictures are likely done by flat earthers including…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Nick,
If you think the Spirit of Christ was manifested in Jesus at the Jordan. What do you call the spirit of Jesus that Jesus had before that?
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Jodi,
You may have missed this question that I asked you recently:
Jodi, spiritually speaking, if Jesus wasn’t always God’s son, who’s son was Jesus before he became God’s son? Please answer this before we move on.
Also, please tell me if you understand that the term “firstborn” can apply to the only child in a family and it is not necessa…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Hi Dig4truth,
Would you mind giving me your response to the Charlie Duke testimony video that I just posted after you have watched it? It is less than 3 minutes. I’m trying to find the shorter ones since the 4 hour video of scientific information with three astronomers and a lunar eclipse seems to be not worth your time. May I mention that it is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
I believe that American Astronauts have indeed landed on the moon…and I honor their courage.
Here is a testimony from Charlie Duke about his faith. He is one of the astronauts that has walked on the moon.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Has anyone watched this documentary called “In the Shadow of the Moon?” I thought it was fantastic.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Good work @Anthony !
Did you write all of your post or copy some of it off a website? If you got it off a website, can I have the link?
Thinking through all that, there is some type of water above the heavens. I wonder if “living water” has something to do with that water. God is the fountain of living water. The Spirit is referred to as living…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
For all, especially our doubters Mike and Dig4truth,
Here is a four hour video of a lunar eclipse on June 15, 2011, hosted by the Astronomer Bob Burnam, Astronomy Editor of “The Old Farmer’s Almanac.” Near midway Dr. Duncan Copp was a guest to discuss his various documentaries including “In the Shadow of the Moon” where the astronauts talk about…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Nick,
you said:
But the Spirit abided and raised him from the grave into his battered body then later took him to heaven.
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and he too is fellowshiping with His Father and we too are invited to join this spiritual fellowship.
Who was the Spirit before Jesus became the Spirit, Nick?
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