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Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
And that rock was Christ.
1 Cor. 10:4.Rock of ages, cleft for me,
Let me hide myself in thee;
Let the water and the blood,
From thy riven side which flowed,
Be of sin the double cure;
Cleanse me from its guilt and power.2 Not the labor of my hands
Can fulfill the law’s demands;
Could my zeal no respite know,
Could my tears for e…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Dig4truth,
Do you not understand the difference between metaphors and non-metaphors? If God is speaking metaphorically then it is to be understood that way…it is a true metaphor. It would be false to understand something as literal when meant metaphorically, right?
15 Famous Metaphors in The Bible
Metaphor and the Bible
A metaphor is a…Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Thank you Alex for this, we stand united…yeah for unity in the only begotten Son:
“8. And His proper and peculiar, natural and excellent Sonship, St. Paul has declared, who thus speaks of God:
Who spared not His own Son, but for us,
who were not His natural sons,delivered Him up.
Romans 8:32 For to distinguish Him from those who are not…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 9 months ago
Start at 1:33
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick you said in response to this question “Who do you say Jesus is?”:
Yes Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Not God the son and not God.
Those are just idolatrous inventions of carnal men
It was the carnal man that said that He was just a prophet.
Matt 16:13Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hebrews 5
The Perfect High Priest
1For every high priest taken from among men is appointed on behalf of men in things pertaining to God, in order to offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins; 2he can deal gently with the ignorant and misguided, since he himself also is beset with weakness; 3and because of it he is obligated to offer sacrific…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick,
It is the saving faith in the Messiah that saves a man regardless of the time frame, the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. Some in the OT had a saving faith in the Messiah before He even came to earth as the promised child. So when Jesus, the babe is proclaimed by angels to be the Savior, He had already been saving many.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
The Son of God has been The Savior since before the foundation of the world. Many believed in the Messiah long before He came as a child born to them.
Psalm 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Great message for what is going on here:
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 9 months ago
This looks like it could be very helpful here and now:
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
Thank you for understanding. My prayer lately is that Father God delivers us from evil and graces us with a sound mind and wisdom and truth in the knowledge of His precious only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour.
Be blessed,
Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick,
He had to be begotten/born of Sarah to receive the promise. Both the birth and the promise were required.
Lightenup replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick,
regarding Abraham and his “only begotten son” Isaac…
We realize that Abraham had a son Ishmael first and then a son Isaac. We also are told that Isaac is the son that was meant to participate in the promise of the covenant, not Ishmael. So, if I asked you this question:
Who was the begotten son of Abraham who received the promises?
a.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
you posted:
Now we ask again: To whom is the arm of Yahuweh revealed?
Who has believed the report seen in Isaiah 53? Who has believed this astonishing news or tidings presented?
To those who have believed the report, the Zeroah Of Yahuweh reveals Messiah in the Passover Seder;
To those who have believed the report, the Zeroah…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 9 months ago
Really Mike, I have to stop this. I have some other interests to attend to presently.
God bless you richly!
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Jodi,
I disagree with you on practically everything you write. It is not my desire to argue with you. I have answered your many questions more than once yet you keep asking the same things. I’m sorry that I haven’t been able to help you. If I think of something or come across scripture for your thread then I will post but I am not going to argue…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
you said: I think you are mistakingly attributing atmospheric qualities to the penumbra… as if the sunlight can hit one part of the penumbra and the light carries throughout the entire penumbra, making this shadow a light source of it’s own.
I think that atmospheric conditions, weather conditions, and temperature conditions certainly hav…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Jodi,
13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. 14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son.
That is referring to Solomon.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
“This day…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
Maybe a neighbor, family member, or co-worker can loan you a globe on a stand that shows the tilt. I do think it will help you. Also, the timeanddate.com site has a lot of information about angles and such. If you study it as if they know what they are talking about, you could probably get the answers that you are looking for much better…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
you said:
Am I correct that we now agree on this fact, and that the claim that the moon is being lit BY the penumbra is erroneous?
I think the way I said it was unclear, so I’ll give you that. The light rays from the sun are indirectly in the penumbra, not direct rays. The atmosphere causes the direct rays from the sun to bend and scatter.…[Read more]
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