Hello to all,I understand the Son of God to be born of God not created by God. He is called the “firstborn” not the “first created”. Read this from 1 John 5:18-19:18 We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him. NASUGal 4:4-54 But when the fullness of the time came, God…[Read more]

Dear Mrs.,Good post!Col 1:17 And He is before all things That refers to the Son of God there too, Gene and Martian.

Gene and Martian,I'm sorry,I said:I just gave you an example of Gene “torquing the words to make it come out a different way.' The very thing you complain about others doing. I meant to say:I just gave you an example of Martian “torquing the words to make it come out a different way.' The very thing you complain about others doing.

Dear Gene and Martian,Martian wrote:John 17:5″ And now, O Father glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.Martian continues:What was with God before the world was?   The glory for Jesus.  We also have glory set aside for us, that does not mean that we were there before the world was.And Gene w…[Read more]

Martian wrote:John 17:5″ And now, O Father glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.What was with God before the world was? The glory for Jesus. We also have glory set aside for us, that does not mean that we were there before the world was.And Gene writes:They have to torque the words to make…[Read more]

Dear Gene and Martian,Gene wrote:martian……..this is right on, these people who come up with the preexistence doctrines don't have a single verse that absolute says by Jesus or anyone else that Jesus preexisted. Jesus only existed in the plan and Will of God before he was born.My response:Heb 1:8-108 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD,…[Read more]

Hi Nick, I agree. As I understand the Bible, the Son would never want to be thought of as equal to the Father. I am curious what religion you are talking about?

Hi Nick,What religion is that? Do they make Jesus out to be equal to His Father?

Dear Mrs.The Father taught Him what He needed to know about. He grew in wisdom.Luke 2:5252 And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.NASUJohn 8:28-30I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me. 29 “And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do…[Read more]

Hi Nick,You asked:Did his origins have any impact on his nature, his mission or his ministry?If they did we cannot follow him. My response:I do not know whether they did or not but I don't think that I would put Jesus in the “box” that one's limited understandings want to put Him in. He is who He is. We can trust that He WAS made like His…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I am a mere woman, correct. I am a mere woman without a past existence and history before conception Jesus was a man but He was a man with a past existence and history. That is not the same, in fact, BIG, difference. However, He was born without memory of His past.

Hi Nick,That's true. I believe the Son of God is the Light, He is the Lamp of God, and is filled with the Light which enlightens every man and to those who receive Him they will also be filled with the light. I agree.

Hi Nick,You wrote:EVERY MAN seems to go beyond your idea of enlightenment. The light of Christ shines from Christ in the enlightenedBut most are not thereby enlightened. All are enlightened, some will receive it and then shine that light to others, some will not receive it and not shine that light to others. The light shines in the darkness but…[Read more]

Hi Nick,Yes He was truly a man but not merely a man.

Dear Gene,You wrote: Posted: Mar. 11 2008,05:15 ——————————————————————————–lightenup…….> please tell us what profit it would be to have produced a already perfect person, wipr out His memory have Him reborn and live a perfect life. What kind of example would that be to me or anyone else.…[Read more]

Hi Nick,That is true Nick, the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which is why those that are enlightened cannot comprehend the Light and receive Christ. I wonder what it will be like when satan is locked up for 1000 years.

Hi Nick,He shines on every man but not all will comprehend it and receive Him.

Hello to all,Well Irene, here I am “exposing myself” as someone that does other things besides debate and encourage over Bible understandings.I am raising five great kids in a beautiful part of Tennessee.  My youngest is 11/girl, then the rest boys 15, 17, 19, and 21.  I have lived through having 4 teenage boys at once and now only 3 are t…[Read more]

Dear MartianSee my post at the top of page 1065 of this trinity forum for an explanation relating to your questions regarding the pre-existence of Christ.I welcome your comments.

Hello Nick,This is a very good question. Let's look at a few passages:John 1:9-109 There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. NASUIt does say “enlightens every man” so the answer to your question is yes, Jesus is the light that enlightens every man.John 1:55 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did…[Read more]