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    Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    WJ,Holy cow! My brain hurts and may never recover. You put a lot of time and effort into that post so even though I do not completely agree with you I do appreciate all your thought and time. I hope that I am not intruding here by addressing your post since you specifically asked for t8's response. I would like to say a few things about it…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 12 2008,23:19)Lu…..Jesus is not my GOD and savior, I have a GOd and Savior who is the same one as Jesus had and I think He is just as capable of saving me as He did Jesus. I View Jesus as my brother who the Father placed over us because He is the first born of the Family of Humanity to fully image God the Father and…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (dirtyknections @ Aug. 13 2008,11:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2008,01:25)Gene,So 2 Peter 1:1 refers to another Jesus Christ?LUAgain…this verse does not prove the trinity…The dispute in this verse is usually over whether Sharp's “article+substantive-kai-substantive” rule should apply or not.First of all, if you check other translations…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Gene,So 2 Peter 1:1 refers to another Jesus Christ?LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2008,09:53)Hi Adam,You say:”I fully agree with Jesus in all that he preached and he is the lord and savior of me. But I don't make him another God apart from that one and only God (Jn 5:44). Jesus has been exalted to the position above all angels and authorities even as a man. Please see Heb 2:5-9″You mentioned that “he…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Hi Adam,You say:”I fully agree with Jesus in all that he preached and he is the lord and savior of me. But I don't make him another God apart from that one and only God (Jn 5:44). Jesus has been exalted to the position above all angels and authorities even as a man. Please see Heb 2:5-9″You mentioned that “he is the lord and savior of me”.  It is…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Hi Pulivarthy,You are right that the son of God is called the “word of God”. I believe that He is the word of God in more than one ways. I believe that the first word of God spoken in the Bible referred to the Son of God, “Let there be light”. He was that light of life, physically and spiritually and still is. I think that was an announcement…[Read more]

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    Hi Adam,I believe that His “inner man” came down from heaven and dwelt within the body prepared for Him inside of Mary. The same part that ascended back into heaven when the body died.

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    Welcome Akara,It sounds like you are a “baby” christian, so to speak. All Christians start out that way. As babes in Christ we feed on milk, the basics of God and as we grow we start to chew on the tougher stuff. The book of John is a good place to start your search. There are some good basics there.LU

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    Hi 94,You are correct to say that He never sinned along the way amidst the temptations. You are also correct to say that we do sin along the way amidst the temptations. Another difference is that He is from above and we are from below yet both born into this world as an infant. You are also correct to say that in some ways we shall be like Him…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2008,21:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2008,08:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,22:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 10 2008,04:47)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,12:07)LU…..Where does it say Jesus is the Author of Faith, Abraham had Faith and Jesus wasn't even born yet, as well as David and many…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,22:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 10 2008,04:47)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,12:07)LU…..Where does it say Jesus is the Author of Faith, Abraham had Faith and Jesus wasn't even born yet, as well as David and many others.peace……….geneGene,If it did say He was the author of faith would you then believe.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,12:07)LU…..Where does it say Jesus is the Author of Faith, Abraham had Faith and Jesus wasn't even born yet, as well as David and many others.peace……….geneGene,If it did say He was the author of faith would you then believe. I doubt it. Read my post again and you will find where it says that He is the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,11:58)Jesus was simply a man with no human advantages He is even not much to look at according to scripture, and i believe was kind of sickly, be cause like he said “you would say unto me Physician heal they self”, and also he born our sickness and infirmity's in his body. I think He had a pretty rough go…[Read more]

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    Hi all,It is written that the Son of God is the author and perfector of faith. The author of faith, as I understand it is the originator of faith, the first to express such a thing. He is not merely the perfector of faith but the author as well, the first to express it. Heb 12:2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who…[Read more]

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    Good for you Irene,You are a good example of seeing the good in things!Love, Kathi

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 08 2008,23:26)Hi LU,So what is strength? Is it what the world admires? Or is it faith and belief in the promises and the power of God? Jesus had all those strengthsHi Nick,Exactly, He had strength so why do you call Him a weak vessel when He is a strong vessel?The main thing is that He was a willing vessel just like we…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,Quote He did not lift himself up as anything special but his weak vessel allowed the full expression of God in him.  Some say that Jesus was just a man, just like us, a weak vessel.  Well, He may have appeared weak while dragging His cross and then hanging on it but that was because He was actually incredibly strong in spirit.  He was co…[Read more]

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    To Nick and all,As you probably recall, Nick, I posted this info in the pre-existence thread a few days ago. Address this verse in 2 Peter 1:1. Is the NAV consistent in its translation of 2 Peter 1:1 and 2 Peter 1:11? The only thing that should change is the word “God” to “Lord”, if that is not the case, the translators, IMO are expressing a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 06 2008,05:27)Hi LU, Both these verses can be read differently according to comma placement, and of course there are no commas in the greek.Hi Nick,Are you satisfied with just shucking off a statement of that magnitude with that reasoning? Take the commas out and I find the message of Jesus Christ still being our God and…[Read more]

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