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Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 04 2008,15:17)Hi LU, Do you work in the name of Jesus. Does that make you him?Jesus is the Son of the living GodYahshuaNick,I do not think you are following along or I am not making myself clear.LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2008,05:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2008,15:39)Hi Nick,Can you prove that Jesus was never called “Yahweh”?I believe that I can show that two are called Yahweh.Here goes:Ex 6:2-32 God also said to Moses, “I am the LORD. 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Hi t8,I don't think that God is referred to as the invisible God because He has no form or body type. In fact, He let Moses see His “form”. Also, Jesus saw Him.Num 12:6-8″Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. 7 “Not so, with My servant…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Hi Nick,Can you prove that Jesus was never called “Yahweh”?I believe that I can show that two are called Yahweh.Here goes:Ex 6:2-32 God also said to Moses, “I am the LORD. 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself known to them.(from New International Version)hmmmmm…Here we have…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 02 2008,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2008,02:52)In the beginning was the word. That does not say that the “word” was eternal, it just says that it was in the beginning. A word has an origin, first it must be a thought. Surely there must be something more than that for those of you who believe that the Son of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2008,14:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2008,01:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 02 2008,15:07)Hi LU, No Abraham did not seek to kill ANY man who had come to tell the truth given him of God.Hi Nick,Can you recall what “men” or “man” gave Abraham words of God beside the “man” he called LORD? I know that God spoke with…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 02 2008,15:07)Hi LU, No Abraham did not seek to kill ANY man who had come to tell the truth given him of God.Hi Nick,Can you recall what “men” or “man” gave Abraham words of God beside the “man” he called LORD? I know that God spoke with Abraham directly many times. LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 02 2008,22:53)Hi WJ, You say”Yes, you are correct, there is no scripture that says Yeshua was born a son before the world began.”Then say” In fact the scriptural evidence leans toward the “eternality of Yeshua”.” If you are prepared to back the first statement as what being written is insufficient as proof, why trust your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years ago
Hi Nick,I know. I thought you might like this one.LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Nicene Creed in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 18 years ago
Hi All,In the following passage Jesus is talking to some very religious Jews who claimed God as their very Father. Jesus tells them that God was not their Father. Why, because they did not know Him (Jesus). What does that mean, they knew him, they were in fact talking to him. If someone were to ask them if they knew who Jesus was they would…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years ago
Hi all,Here might be something else to chew on:Isa 48:16 “Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord GOD has sent Me, and His Spirit.”And this passage (notice the switch from you did this and he did that, sounds like two were involved):Ps 1041 Bless the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Do you believe the theory of Evolution to be true? in the forum Creation & Science 18 years ago
Hi all,I am a kitchen designer by trade. I believe that every kitchen comes about because of a designer whether it is an uneducated and unexperienced one or one with experience and talent. I would never tell a client to set off some exposives in the area that they would like there kitchen to be and in the morning they would have a kitchen in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Hi Nick and Mandy,Thanks Mandy for your insight here. Thanks Nick for your answer.Now, just to clarify, Abraham did not seek to kill the pre-existent Christ who has told him the truth, which he heard of God. That is the deed he did not do.My point is why would Jesus speak of this unless He actually had been in the physical presence of Abraham and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 02 2008,00:58)Hi LU,The LORD in the OT is never Jesus. It was originally written YHWH. Jesus is not God but the Son of God YAHSHUA. God frequently manifested among men as His angel and sometimes men thought they had met God Himself.Nick,You “speculate” that the third “man” in the passage was an angel but it doesn't say…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick,What “thing” did Abraham not do that the Jews were doing? And to whom did he not do them to?John 8:39-41 ” If you are Abraham's children, do the deeds of Abraham. 40 “But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do. NASUMaybe you can answer this without speculating. LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2008,23:32)Hi LU, Why speculate about such matters?Do we know the mind of God enough to predict His ways? Surely we should rely on what can be shown rather than speculations?2 Timothy 2:23But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels.Nick,I knew you were going to push the “why…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (epistemaniac @ Sep. 01 2008,02:09)ps, and btw LU, re the title “firstborn” elsewhere I wrote “In the Scriptures the term “first born” of course can mean the literal first born child in a chronological sense, but it can also be a title of honor… now, we know (or we should know) that the Scriptures do not contradict themselves, right?…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2008,15:33)Hi LU, Why should God send His Son twice when He usually sent His angels to do His work?God is fair and expects us to follow Jesus.Jesus did not have a head start having previously had a physical existence on earth IMO.Hi Nick,The way I see it is if God wanted us to believe that His Son was living back when…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Thanks t8!God bless,LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Hi all,Regarding whether or not Jesus existed while Abraham was alive, this passage seems pretty clear to me. In this passage in John 8, Jesus is talking to the Jews. These Jews declared themselves to be sons of Abraham, and even sons of God. They seem to be devout in their religion. Jesus dares to tell them that they aren't sons of Abraham at…[Read more]
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