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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2009,18:54)Hi LU,It was then that he began his ministry of power. The Spirit of God is of power and when the wind blows it is irrrespressible. You may choose to believe he had these powers from his birth and never used them but would God in him see misery and not respond for 30 years?Hi Nick,As I thought about how to…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ June 08 2009,10:45)Quote (Lightenup @ June 08 2009,16:39)Ok Nick,So He was filled with the Spirit even at birth or after the water baptism.  Either way, He did not need to be born again because He already was a child of GOD.  Only those that aren't children of GOD need to be born again so that they will be children of GOD. Being b…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Hi Nick,It is not written that He was baptized at the Jordan in the Spirit. The Spirit came and rested upon Him.LU

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    Thanks Irene for your encouragement. I hope you have a great day! K

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (thethinker @ June 08 2009,15:14)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2009,07:03)Hi TT, He was God's son because God was his father by the Spirit. It is not a title but a fact.Then he was reborn.Nick,I yield to Kathi.thinkerOk Thinker and Nick and Bo,I know what you are saying Nick, I think. He was born of GOD, later He was born of Mary so in that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 08 2009,12:01)Quote (Lightenup @ June 06 2009,17:16)Hi Jodi,You have put a great deal of thought into what you say about the body of Moses…it's interesting.  Thanks!I was wondering who you thought tempted Christ in the desert after His 40 days fast in the wilderness. The Temptation of JesusMatthew4:1-84:1 Then Jesus was…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Nick,There seems to be no record of Him being “born again.”LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Ok Nick,So He was filled with the Spirit even at birth or after the water baptism. Either way, He did not need to be born again because He already was a child of GOD. Only those that aren't children of GOD need to be born again so that they will be children of GOD. Being born again makes one an adopted child of GOD. He did not become born…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Ok Nick,So do you see that He was anointed by the time He was born and that the Holy Spirit was in Him at that time?LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Ok Nick,Why did Simeon recognize Him then?LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Cindy @ June 07 2009,18:54)Quote (Lightenup @ June 08 2009,10:39)Quote (Cindy @ June 07 2009,18:24)Nick  Since Christ has been preexisted, and was God's literal Son from before the World was, did He not be the anointed one from the beginning. He knew when He became a man, what He had been and  was all wise, and had the Holy Spirit in Him f…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (thethinker @ June 07 2009,05:46)Quote (Lightenup @ June 07 2009,09:52)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2009,16:47)Hi LU,God's choice is not rescinded and when Jesus was born he was recognised as the Lord. But Christ means anointed one and anointings manifest in power. That power was shown after the Jordan.Nick,You are right that Christ means…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Nick,It was not time for miracles before the Jordan. He was the anointed one that the prophets were looking for and Simeon was looking for at birth.LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Cindy @ June 07 2009,18:24)Nick  Since Christ has been preexisted, and was God's literal Son from before the World was, did He not be the anointed one from the beginning. He knew when He became a man, what He had been and  was all wise, and had the Holy Spirit in Him full strength. Otherwise I don't think He could have gone as a 12 year o…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2009,17:55)Hi LU,So you say but that anointing produces fruit. None till age 30Sorry Nick,I don't understand your comment. Would you like to rephrase that?LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2009,16:58)Hi LU, Is this anointing recorded anywhere or just what you would imagine?Why did it not produce immediate fruit as when Paul anointed others with the Spirit?Nick,If He is the Christ then He IS the anointed one. That alone tells us that He was anointed in order to be the anointed one. When He was born in…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Nick,You ask:Quote So all authority was given to him after he was raised?In whose authority did he heal and forgive sin before that time?He had some authority while on earth but not all the authority that He was to receive after the resurrection.Quote The King entered Jerusalem on a donkey as prophesised.The Spirit of Christ inspired the prophets…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2009,15:46)Hi LU, So somewhere around his birth you will find this anointing written. Seems strange that this anointing did not manifest for 30 years given the instant evidence with others in Acts.What you quote from Jesus was just after the Jordan but his Father was with him guiding him always as such is the work of a…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (uoflfan @ June 07 2009,15:50)Quote (Lightenup @ June 08 2009,07:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2009,18:02)Hi LU, Was he anointed before birth or is that anointing recorded to be at his birth?Or was he anointed several times? He was recognised as the Christ also read as messiah at his birth but the anointing was later in my view.Nick,That…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2009,18:23)Hi LU, He was also born as king. When did his rule begin?Hi Nick…again,I believe that He began His rule when all authority was given to Him upon His resurrection after He had made purification of sins. It was then that He was given authority. LU

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