Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:43)Quote (thethinker @ June 26 2009,04:31)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,He literally was begotten of the Father.Kathi,How can you say that Christ was literally begotten seeing that God is spirit?  Lightenup said:Quote The Son's resurrection was proof that the Son accomplished the main purpose of His being…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:33)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2009,03:15)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,03:53)Lightenup said to bd:Quote Well, Bo, I do believe that the most High God would be the only true God ultimately.  But, what type of God would come from the one true God?  Would a false God come from a true God?  Would false light co…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ June 25 2009,06:14)Lightenup:The Truth that I have found is that devils,demons,satan, et.al. are just thought messages against the Truth of God. They are lies and deception and un-truth. These thoughts come to steal the word of Truth from your mind. One who overcomes the lies and deception against the Truth becomes ONE with/in…[Read more]

Thinker,How does the flesh levitate itself off the ground?Kathi

Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,03:53)Lightenup said to bd:Quote Well, Bo, I do believe that the most High God would be the only true God ultimately.  But, what type of God would come from the one true God?  Would a false God come from a true God?  Would false light come from true light…no!  Don't come to the conclusion that if one is the onl…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,02:09)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2009,21:14)Keith and Bo,Who is the “I” in this passage.  If it is the Son and the Son is God replace the I with “God” and continue to read.Rev 3:1212 'He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write…[Read more]

Nick,Why would the Father tell the angels to worship the Son yet forbid us from worshipping the Son? No where did He forbid us to worship the Son as part of worshipping Him.See Hebrews 1.LU

Quote (TechJoe @ June 25 2009,00:33)WOW there is a lot of stuff in here! I’m a fundamentalist so let’s look at something fundamental. GEN 1:1, 2  “In the beginning God… And the Sprit of God moved upon the face of the waters.Hmmmm God + the Spirit of God + Jesus Christ = Let me take a wild guess here! “3”.Hi Joe,You are right that makes three…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I believe that the Father feels worshipped when we worship His Son. His Son always leads us to the Father and the Father always leads us to His Son.LU

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 24 2009,19:00)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,10:56)Bo,When a word is repeated twice in a verse then there is a first instance that it is used and a second instance that it is used.  In John 1:1 the word “God” is used twice, a first time when it says “and the word was with God” and a second time when it says “and the…[Read more]

Keith and Bo,Who is the “I” in this passage. If it is the Son and the Son is God replace the I with “God” and continue to read.Rev 3:1212 'He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem,…[Read more]

Bo,When a word is repeated twice in a verse then there is a first instance that it is used and a second instance that it is used. In John 1:1 the word “God” is used twice, a first time when it says “and the word was with God” and a second time when it says “and the word was God.” I think that you read that I am saying that there is a first most…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 24 2009,17:52)Quote (Paladin @ June 24 2009,16:36)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,05:53)WorshippingJesus said:Quote Hi Kathi”The Word was God”, or “God was the Word”, if God is “eternal” then the Word is “eternal”!That is unambiguous!WJ,You're absolutely correct. It is unambiguous!thinkerGive me a…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ June 24 2009,17:26)Kathi  I was rather surprised that you honor the Father and the Son the same way.  I do not. The Son does deserve honor, but not the same then the Father.  You do know what it says in Ephesians 4:6  The Father is,above all. So all worship goes to the Father. The Father is the Almighty God while Jesus is the Mig…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 24 2009,01:46)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2009,07:00)Bo, Exactly, there is only one source God and if He has a son then that son is the begotten God…independent, not part of the one source but from the one source.  God begets the same nature and the one begotten is called after the same type. Man begets man, GOD begets…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2009,22:53)Hi LU, The first deception Satan led the early church into was that both the Father and the Son were God and that they were a single binity God. Having bravely gone thus far into folly some decided that perhaps the Spirit of God was another god in God and thence the trinity idea became orthodoxy.Hi Nick,I…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 23 2009,15:16)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,Who is speaking in this passage:Rev 3:1212 'He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2009,15:35)Hi LU, Are you now a binity believer?That was the origin of trinity folly.Nick,Please tell me what the definition of a binity believer is.Kathi

Bo, Exactly, there is only one source God and if He has a son then that son is the begotten God…independent, not part of the one source but from the one source.  God begets the same nature and the one begotten is called after the same type. Man begets man, GOD begets God.  There is only one source of all, the Most High GOD. His son is not the s…[Read more]

Thinker,The main reason that He was begotten was so that He could be raised that is why the two concepts are spoken of together. The resurrection was the fulfillment of the purpose of which He was begotten.There is no such concept in the Bible of an “eternal word” no where in any unambiguous form.Kathi