Nick,God speaks of having body parts over and over.LU

Hi Nick,Jesus was never separated from the Father and therefore did not need to be reborn to be restored to Him. Jesus was not “born again” in the sense that believers must be.Also, nature was not said to have been given Him. I just started a topic about what was given to Jesus and nature wasn't one that I found. Do you consider your human…[Read more]

Thank you Happyman and Irene. God bless you both!Kathi

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 01 2009,14:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2009,13:55)Hi TC,And where does scripture tell you that He did not reproduce?Thanks,KathiHi KathiAnd where does the scriptures tell you that he did?WJKeith,Does GOD, the Father of Jesus, claim Him to be His only begotten Son? Yes! John 3:16Does that son have the same nature of…[Read more]

Keith,You asked:Quote Who do you believe the Word that was with God was?The true Light of the true LIGHT as an offspring, with an individual will and body, sharing the same nature of the LIGHT which He was from.Thanks for asking (I have now told you that for the umpteenth time ),Kathi

Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ Aug. 01 2009,14:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2009,09:55)Hi TC,And where does scripture tell you that He did not reproduce?Thanks,KathiKathi,Where it says that Jesus existed in the very beginning.Genesis 1:26-27Quote 26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of…[Read more]

Hi TC,And where does scripture tell you that He did not reproduce?Thanks,Kathi

Hi Bo,Jesus gives peace, it is not peace in the world but peace “in” Him.John 16:3333 “These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”NASUAlso, regarding the prophets seeing their prophecies, that is not always the case…read Daniel. Daniel was…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 01 2009,12:01)Lightenup said:Quote You seem to say that if He were a begotten Son before His resurrection then He couldn't have been made lower than the angels.  You forget that the monogenes Son humbled Himself to take on the form of man and become a bondservant.  It was then that He was made lower than the angels.  He wa…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 01 2009,01:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2009,15:49)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 31 2009,22:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2009,13:36)Hi Bo,Quote How is David the offspring of Jesus in physicality? And once you answer that then you must answer how is it that the scripture talks about the offspring of the suffering servant was…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 01 2009,04:30)Lighternup said:Quote Thinker,If you would, put up your three scriptures that you refer to regarding when He was begotten please.  Read them carefully though because I do not think they are telling you when the “today” was.Kathi,This annoys me. We have been over this several times. I would rather you have…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 31 2009,22:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2009,13:36)Hi Bo,Quote How is David the offspring of Jesus in physicality? And once you answer that then you must answer how is it that the scripture talks about the offspring of the suffering servant was Jesus suffering when he was the root of David?You see your mind is stuck on…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 31 2009,11:51)Lightenup said:Quote Jesus was the only begotten Son of God before He was resurrected too. You miss that over and over.Kathi,I don't “miss it.” I deny it. There are only three passages in the new testament that tell us WHEN Christ was begotten and they ALL say it was at His exaltation. You simply have no…[Read more]

Hi Bo,Quote How is David the offspring of Jesus in physicality? And once you answer that then you must answer how is it that the scripture talks about the offspring of the suffering servant was Jesus suffering when he was the root of David?You see your mind is stuck on key words that you have been taught, I can find scriptures that have the word…[Read more]

Hi ya'll,Would you please lift my 19 and 20 year old son's up in prayer. They have gone to California for a fun adventure and are without a car and they will be depending on others to drive with and to stay with. They are sometimes braver than they should be so I covet your prayers for them. Particularly pray for the guy they are staying with…[Read more]

My prayers are with you, Irene. May He give you peace.Love, Kathi

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Quote (thethinker @ July 31 2009,03:27)TLightenup said to thinker:Quote Thinker,But it DOES say that his origins are from ancient times and that He is the  ONLY BEGOTTEN SON and that He is the same yesterday, today and forever.  Reproduction brings sons to life.  It is not hard.  The Supernatural reproduces another supernatural.  The most High…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 30 2009,10:16)Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2009,22:16)Quote (thethinker @ July 30 2009,04:39)Lightenup said to WJ:Quote Do you understand that many were in trinitarian churches when they realized that the doctrine wasn't what they felt as Biblical.Kathi,I was led to Christ by two former JW's. It happens both ways. So let's…[Read more]